We pay virtually nothing for phone calls on our landline, we simply don't use it. We both have mobiles, and use them, so much better value than using a land line. I pay £15 a month for my package, 2000 minutes a month with unlimited data with tethering. The previous package I was on recently dropped to £9 for 600 minutes and 1GB. There are some very cheap deals if you look, and even cheaper if you use cash back. Obviously depends if the numbers you call are included, and of course good reception is crucial, even then there are ways to improve your reception.

In reply to a post by MrSaffron:

A reality check is sometimes needed...

Is Super HD and HD video that important if you are doing things like bill watching?

The label SuperHD is dead with netflix, they have said it will just be HD and will scale according to the bandwidth available.

I wouldnt call it dead given the wii-u netflix app was only updated last week to support super hd, why introduce it now if its dead?

As to how important it is depends on how much you use netflix and how big the screen is you watch it on.

In terms of the now yes still live, so the word 'is' should really have said 'is on the way out'.

It will be

SD, HD and 4K content if memory is working, i.e. avoiding too many labels

so you saying they launched it last week on a platform and its on the way out. Why launch something on the way out?

Sorry Andrew, I have tried to find anything to back up what you saying but all I am seeing is netflix expanding super hd not phasing it out, that makes no sense.

Edited by Chrysalis (Tue 28-Jan-14 12:35:20)

Same here. As I'm usually out during the day Mon-Fri I only have an evening and weekend call package and if I need to make calls during the day or to mobiles I use VoIP. I put £20 on my VoIP account 18 months ago and there's still around £14 on it now.

We have mobiles to ! , one contract and the other pay as you go (my phone) now £10 can last me seven months the contract on the female phone gets abused, the house phone has free evening and weekends calls you think that should be enough, but those 0844 and so on are the killers to the wallet, is there such a thing as phone locks on DECT wireless handsets ? then I could rest easy and not go down the ADSL route.

Edited by deleted (Tue 28-Jan-14 19:21:24)

In reply to a post by MrSaffron:

A reality check is sometimes needed...

Is Super HD and HD video that important if you are doing things like bill watching?

The label SuperHD is dead with netflix, they have said it will just be HD and will scale according to the bandwidth available.

yep, if penny watching than Hd is not important, saying that even when I was on ADsl24 i could get low to medium HD and the quality was fine and that was with 3-4Mb/s

that was if you are not using the network for any thing else

In reply to a post by MrSaffron:

Actually those complaining that ADSL will not be good enough for 4k are missing the simple fact that the codecs that are getting 4K down from many Gbps to just 14 to 15 Mbps, will also have an impact on HD feeds.

So higher quality HD may well be feasible at speeds of 4 to 5 Mbps again.

Um, i have seen what the so called new compression and codecs haave done to freeview and it is nto pretty, they stuff more and more rubbish into the same space.

you can only go so far and it don't matter how good the codecs are, you will lose quality. As for 4K, still a few years off price wise for most people. TBH, Hd is fine for me.

In reply to a post by MrDiode:

I guess the cost of FTTC is not that bad at £35 it's just when you get your bill for the month and it's above £60 yes the the remainder is due to phone call charges

If you're with BT you could get their Anytime package. That only costs £7 extra.

No doubt other providers have similar packages.

Edit: Ah, I see you already have evenings and weekends. That does include 0845 and 0870 you know.

Edited by Andrue (Wed 29-Jan-14 14:47:28)