We had FTTC available on our 2.8km line, estimated 8mb/s and when we had it installed struggled to get 4mb/s we had many engineers down but they could not see what was the problem and laid it down to aluminium cables. Was hoping for better performance but maybe vectoring could help us?

I believe the most cost effective way around this is having some negotiations with a neighbour who is significantly closer to the cabinet and having your telephone line moved there.
Fixed Line Broadband is so so cheap, if your able to work with the system to get a line with the best speed possible (within reason) and link your neighbour and your house via wireless, then your getting your best value for money.
Until BT deploy fibre to the pole, or more likely those mini waterproof dslams I think people with lines over 2km it will still be really slow speeds compared to everyone else (all for a similar monthly cost!).

Yeah well that would be good but the problem is we do not have line of sight to any houses that would get a decent speed.

Edited by deleted (Mon 17-Feb-14 21:17:19)

Bah, rubbish.
Thats a shame, if there was a way of keeping your vdsl2 modem as close as possible to the edge of your property (i.e. if there was a benefit over where your current master socket is).
Couple this with a Mk2 VDSL faceplate and a VDSL2 modem which can deal with long lines (and vectoring of course) then hopefully when vectoring is fully implemented you'll have the best possible speed as you can.
cheers,
flipdee

Ah yes - I've seen a few of Adtran's presentations before. Of note is that their graphs indicate that the distances quoted are for 26AWG (0.4mm), and they can be multiplied by 1.3 when wires are 24AWG (0.5mm) - which is what we tend to have on the D-side here.

In that case, I'd have to take issue with your use of the word "best" then, as IgnitionNet corrected the bit about loop distance.

Because of what vectoring achieves (ie restores speeds back to the value you'd get as a lone user of a cabinet), then it certainly achieves the highest speeds for those closest to the cabinets, and the highest gain in speed. If, by "best", you mean fastest, then you are right.

However, vectoring continues to work effectively at distances far greater than 1kft (300m), as can be seen by other graphs in the same presentation. It is still having a noticeable effect (30% uplift) out at 5kft (1500m).

There are probably more people out there with speeds in the 10-40Mbps region, who will get uplifted, than those within 300m. The way you use "best" makes it sound like it will be ineffective for those people, when that is far from the truth. To my mind, vectoring is probably more "important" for people out beyond 600m. BT seem to be treating it that way too.

That's good to hear.