Though there are claims that BT has underspent on its commercial roll-out and thus can afford more FTTP if it wanted to.

Whether that is a guess, back of envelope or someone who has seen the BT books I have no idea.

In reply to a post by MrSaffron:

Though there are claims that BT has underspent on its commercial roll-out and thus can afford more FTTP if it wanted to.

Whether that is a guess, back of envelope or someone who has seen the BT books I have no idea.

I believe that one comes down to whether the 2.5bln includes ongoing OpEx or not. While the announcements and PR implied that it was the costs of network construction the reality may be different.

What BT can and can't afford given the amount spent on content is debatable.

BT need to catch up on Virgin Media 152Meg

Fastest Virgin Media: http://www.speedtest.net/my-result/3345292779
Slowest Plusnet FTTC: http://www.speedtest.net/my-result/3345297673

But, FTTC still the best on upload thought!

Edited by adslmax (Mon 03-Mar-14 16:27:46)

Why?

I know some love to chase the dragon that is the fastest line, but the majority seem happy to pay less and get speeds that can cope with 2 x HD streams at the same time.

BT isn't competition these days! And never is.

And that is the problem from where I sit, trying to figure out the facts from the non-facts, and while some moan about weasel words from BT there is just as much coming from the others with mis-information.

I really wish BT would NOT take on some of the extension work for 2015 to 2017 and give the others a chance to show what they can do, rather than what they say they can do. In fact BT would have had an easier life if it had not won all the BDUK contracts.

You forget how low the vm coverage is and no real expansion plans afaik.
At least bt are trying to get faster broadband to most of the UK.

Edited by deleted (Mon 03-Mar-14 21:10:34)

BT offers faster speeds than Virgin - but to a smaller (but increasing) number of houses.

There is no need for anything above 80/20 domestically, unless you can tell me otherwise....

In reply to a post by AndyHCZ:

There is no need for anything above 80/20 domestically

Define "need"...

Don't worry, I understood it too - though had a hard time finding mention of "the 40% figure" that you mentioned in the OP. It was a long way from page 8!

Over the past few years, I've hoovered up a lot of information about the FTTC and FTTP rollouts, and a fair percentage has come from finding gems in these BT "product surgery" and ISP Forum presentations and the like.

While I note the same shift in expectation level, that FTTP has indeed reduced significantly, I also note that a *lot* of the coming-soon and future-exchange lists seem to have some amount of FTTP included. It seems to be a lot more than the original commercial exchanges.

Whether that is a deliberate choice, to include lines that are too far from cabinets, or because the rural areas tend to have more pole-fed lines, who knows?