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Standard User francisuk25
(newbie) Mon 14-Apr-14 19:11:39
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Re: Best ISP for gaming?


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Also to mention, Sky hasnt been the best for pings the max about a month ago was about 19ms = 28ms so is not been all that low.

My Ping below is now updated. smile

Sky Fibre Unlimited Pro Since 02/12/2013, Sync speeds:
DownStream Connection Speed: 57146
UpStream Connection Speed: 19075
Sky Hub SR101 & Openreach VDSL2 modem
My Broadband Ping
Standard User RobertoS
(sensei) Mon 14-Apr-14 19:12:52
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C:\Users\Bob>tracert 77.246.174.116

Tracing route to client-oneprovider.serverspace.co.uk [77.246.174.116]
over a maximum of 30 hops:

1 1 ms 1 ms 1 ms 192.168.1.254
2 14 ms 15 ms 14 ms lo0-central10.ptw-ag04.plus.net [195.166.128.194]
3 16 ms 14 ms 13 ms link-a-central10.ptw-gw01.plus.net [212.159.2.156]
4 14 ms 13 ms 13 ms xe-7-2-0.ptw-cr01.plus.net [212.159.0.252]
5 30 ms 37 ms 50 ms po-8-0-0.bb1.lon2.uk.m247.com [195.66.224.231]
6 15 ms 21 ms 14 ms 77.243.176.246
7 15 ms 15 ms 14 ms v925-crs4202.logo.serverspace.co.uk [77.246.169.141]
8 16 ms 15 ms 22 ms client-oneprovider.serverspace.co.uk [77.246.174.116]

Trace complete.

My broadband basic info/help site - www.robertos.me.uk | Domains,site and mail hosting - Tsohost.
Connection - Plusnet UnLim Fibre (FTTC). Sync ~ 58.7/14.6Mbps @ 600m. - BQM

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Standard User deleted
(deleted) Mon 14-Apr-14 19:13:42
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i really do think its down to bt's routing, i think im just going to go over to plusnet, from forums and reviews the general view is they are very good. so even if its no improvement at all, then ill still be saving money as its cheaper.


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Standard User RobertoS
(sensei) Mon 14-Apr-14 19:15:27
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Did you delete the old ping smile? To stop some other person getting a ping every second and wondering what is going on smile.

The new one looks good smile.

My broadband basic info/help site - www.robertos.me.uk | Domains,site and mail hosting - Tsohost.
Connection - Plusnet UnLim Fibre (FTTC). Sync ~ 58.7/14.6Mbps @ 600m. - BQM

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Standard User francisuk25
(newbie) Mon 14-Apr-14 19:31:09
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In reply to a post by Hoolay88:
i think im just going to go over to plusnet, from forums and reviews the general view is they are very good. so even if its no improvement at all, then ill still be saving money as its cheaper.


Cheaper isnt always the best but again look at Sky just gos to show, Maybe the exchange im connected to has a big capacity maybe 80Gbps? Also bare in mind that Sky dosnt do Wholesale and Business unless they taken O2 Wholesale too?

Traceroute to Zello, Softlayer USA

C:\Users\Hey>tracert zello.com

Tracing route to zello.com [184.173.146.95]
over a maximum of 30 hops:
1 <1 ms <1 ms <1 ms SkyRouter [192.168.1.1]
2 * * * Request timed out.
3 13 ms 7 ms 8 ms ip-84-38-37-10.easynet.co.uk [84.38.37.10]
4 7 ms 7 ms 7 ms ae51.edge6.london1.level3.net [212.113.9.53]
5 96 ms 75 ms 76 ms vl-3615-ve-239.csw2.london1.level3.net [4.69.166.90]
6 75 ms 75 ms 75 ms ae-58-223.ebr2.london1.level3.net [4.69.153.137]
7 75 ms 75 ms 75 ms ae-41-41.ebr1.newyork1.level3.net [4.69.137.66]
8 75 ms 76 ms 75 ms ae-71-71.csw2.newyork1.level3.net [4.69.134.70]
9 75 ms 75 ms 75 ms ae-2-70.edge3.newyork1.level3.net [4.69.155.81]
10 75 ms 75 ms 75 ms te2-5.bbr01.tl01.nyc01.networklayer.com [4.26.34.22]
11 76 ms 75 ms 75 ms ae7.bbr01.tl01.nyc01.networklayer.com [173.192.18.176]
12 122 ms 116 ms 118 ms ae1.bbr01.eq01.wdc02.networklayer.com [173.192.18.156]
13 110 ms 110 ms 110 ms ae0.dar01.sr01.wdc01.networklayer.com [173.192.18.197]
14 117 ms 117 ms 124 ms po1.fcr03.sr02.wdc01.networklayer.com [208.43.118.157]
15 110 ms 118 ms 106 ms 184.173.146.95.static.reverse.softlayer.com [184.173.146.95]
Trace complete.

Sky Fibre Unlimited Pro Since 02/12/2013, Sync speeds:
DownStream Connection Speed: 57146
UpStream Connection Speed: 19075
Sky Hub SR101 & Openreach VDSL2 modem
My Broadband Ping

Edited by francisuk25 (Mon 14-Apr-14 19:34:48)

Standard User deleted
(deleted) Mon 14-Apr-14 19:37:06
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yes, cheapers not always best but im just finding it hard to find out who may have the better network for my area and who manages their network routing better between sky and plusnet.
Standard User jchamier
(eat-sleep-adslguide) Mon 14-Apr-14 19:45:20
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In reply to a post by RobertoS:
8 16 ms 15 ms 22 ms client-oneprovider.serverspace.co.uk [77.246.174.116]


Or rent a 100megabit/sec true business connection and you get results like these (Linux traceroute)

traceroute to 77.246.174.116 (77.246.174.116), 30 hops max, 40 byte packets
1 109.169.41.2 (109.169.41.2) 0.048 ms 0.026 ms 0.010 ms
2 87.117.214.235 (87.117.214.235) 0.360 ms 0.364 ms 0.357 ms
3 610.core1.hex.as20860.net (62.233.127.181) 1.366 ms 1.371 ms 1.364 ms
4 po-1-0-0.bb1.lon1.uk.m247.com (195.66.236.231) 1.328 ms 1.325 ms 1.307 ms
5 po-7-0-0.bb1.lon2.uk.m247.com (193.27.64.158) 1.307 ms 1.311 ms 1.297 ms
6 77.243.176.246 (77.243.176.246) 1.901 ms 1.927 ms 1.998 ms
7 v925-crs4202.logo.serverspace.co.uk (77.246.169.141) 4.032 ms 2.532 ms 2.418 ms

This is a hosted server on a big connection in a data centre, but for £2k a month you can have similar results at home wink

smile

James BT Infinity 2 19/09/2012 - Sold 42/6, Now 52/9, Sync @ 55 / 9.5 Mbps @ 470m approx
15 years broadband (1999 ntl: cablemodem, BT FTTC) - Router: Asus RT-N66U (merlin) - Modem: HG612 unlocked Typical speedtest
Administrator MrSaffron
(staff) Mon 14-Apr-14 19:47:26
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You are aware that that server is based in the US and probably not on the east coast either, so would be a poor choice as a gaming server due to the Atlantic

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Standard User deleted
(deleted) Mon 14-Apr-14 19:49:28
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Hi I may be able to help as a pro gamer myself I make my living from it a lot depends on your hardware at home as well as your connection a good solid router is a must and a good network card and up to date drivers.

Personally I use virgin media 150 meg at the moment gives me good pings consistently I got virgin to lay a thicker cable from cabinet to my house which helped and a separate cable for my virgin tv so there totally separate and doesn't affect web

I mainly play fast fps games like cs cod as well as a few real time strats but rts typically doesn't need a good ping just a stable one but As you know fps games need a nice low one I typically get pings of 9-12 playing on uk servers.

Firstly I would check your home equipment.
Go wired
Update network drivers
Update chipset etc on PC (it helps trust me)
Update modem but keep a backup and get a decent router that won't give up on you
Standard User francisuk25
(newbie) Mon 14-Apr-14 19:57:10
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So to me, It looks like BT's routing what is overcrowded, From 6th to 12th look so heavy but then if you look back on week 14 there bit of pocket lost but not as overloaded
http://ukinternetreport.co.uk/?p=d&id=81

core2-te-0-15-0-6.ilford.ukcore.bt.net

C:\Users\QuadFrancis>ping -n 10 109.159.254.61

Pinging 109.159.254.61 with 32 bytes of data:
Reply from 109.159.254.61: bytes=32 time=14ms TTL=251
Reply from 109.159.254.61: bytes=32 time=9ms TTL=251
Reply from 109.159.254.61: bytes=32 time=17ms TTL=251
Reply from 109.159.254.61: bytes=32 time=13ms TTL=251
Reply from 109.159.254.61: bytes=32 time=8ms TTL=251
Reply from 109.159.254.61: bytes=32 time=15ms TTL=251
Reply from 109.159.254.61: bytes=32 time=11ms TTL=251
Reply from 109.159.254.61: bytes=32 time=7ms TTL=251
Reply from 109.159.254.61: bytes=32 time=14ms TTL=251
Reply from 109.159.254.61: bytes=32 time=9ms TTL=251

Ping statistics for 109.159.254.61:
Packets: Sent = 10, Received = 10, Lost = 0 (0% loss),
Approximate round trip times in milli-seconds:
Minimum = 7ms, Maximum = 17ms, Average = 11ms

Half Life 2 Server

C:\Users\QuadFrancis>ping -n 10 77.246.174.116

Pinging 77.246.174.116 with 32 bytes of data:
Reply from 77.246.174.116: bytes=32 time=6ms TTL=122
Reply from 77.246.174.116: bytes=32 time=6ms TTL=122
Reply from 77.246.174.116: bytes=32 time=5ms TTL=122
Reply from 77.246.174.116: bytes=32 time=6ms TTL=122
Reply from 77.246.174.116: bytes=32 time=6ms TTL=122
Reply from 77.246.174.116: bytes=32 time=6ms TTL=122
Reply from 77.246.174.116: bytes=32 time=6ms TTL=122
Reply from 77.246.174.116: bytes=32 time=6ms TTL=122
Reply from 77.246.174.116: bytes=32 time=6ms TTL=122
Reply from 77.246.174.116: bytes=32 time=5ms TTL=122

Ping statistics for 77.246.174.116:
Packets: Sent = 10, Received = 10, Lost = 0 (0% loss),
Approximate round trip times in milli-seconds:
Minimum = 5ms, Maximum = 6ms, Average = 5ms

Also looks like Andrews and Arnold ISP uses the same routing so dont get with them.

Sky Fibre Unlimited Pro Since 02/12/2013, Sync speeds:
DownStream Connection Speed: 57146
UpStream Connection Speed: 19075
Sky Hub SR101 & Openreach VDSL2 modem
My Broadband Ping

Edited by francisuk25 (Mon 14-Apr-14 20:21:32)

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