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Standard User Andrue
(knowledge is power) Wed 16-Apr-14 15:56:49
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In reply to a post by Hoolay88:
what ive noticed from alot of plusnet graphs is alot of spikes during peak evening times.
Yes, a lot of us have a small hillock of increased latency during the evening. It never seems to affect throughput though so some of us suspect it's ICMP traffic being assigned a low priority rather than bandwidth issues.

I was quite suspicious when I joined PN a couple of months ago but I've seen no adverse impact during my testing so I ignore it now.

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Brackley, UK
Standard User Andrue
(knowledge is power) Wed 16-Apr-14 16:01:46
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In reply to a post by Hoolay88:
Also the traffic prioritization on the plusnet network where they prioritize gaming traffic above downloads etc, did you find this to be helpful?
This is a bone of contention amongst PN users. We shouldn't get into it here in case it explodes out of control but apparently it isn't network prioritisation as such - it's connection prioritisation. In other words it's based on what you are doing not on what others are.

It still seems a bit odd to me but the claim is that it's designed to improve the service you perceive rather than to protect the network. So one user might find FTP traffic being throttled because they are using VoIP whereas someone who is only using FTP sees no throttling. I can see some value to this but confess to still being a bit sceptical about it. It sounds more like QoS and I'm not sure the ISP should be providing QoS services for the customer. I suppose there's a wider benefit in that it limits held or discarded packets at the greater network level but it still seems a bit odd.

Anyway that's all technical strangeness. From a user's perspective I've not seen evidence of any throttling or shaping. It all just seems to flow at full speed 24/7.

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Andrue Cope
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Edited by Andrue (Wed 16-Apr-14 16:04:54)

Standard User deleted
(deleted) Wed 16-Apr-14 16:25:48
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Canterbury, 40/10Mbps (maximum sync speed):- http://www.thinkbroadband.com/ping/share/8a2e3946b07...

The spikes are caused by my SamKnows whitebox testing the line.


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Standard User deleted
(deleted) Wed 16-Apr-14 16:49:40
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My brain is hurting from trying to decide who i want to move to from BT frown Plusnet + Sky both seem good. purely looking for the best ping times and better network management
Standard User deleted
(deleted) Wed 16-Apr-14 16:51:13
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Here's mine.

http://www.thinkbroadband.com/ping/share/bff736067eb...

EMKIRKB exchange.
Standard User francisuk25
(newbie) Wed 16-Apr-14 17:12:47
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Line speed from sky was estimated at between 52-58Mbps but i am getting 59Mb/18.3Mb on FTTC 80/20 package however on steam im peaking at 6.2MB/s and current 6.1MB/s.
exchange - edgware north london connected on cabinet 27
Thinkbroadband Ping

C:\Users\Francis>tracert pingbox1.thinkbroadband.com

Tracing route to pingbox1.thinkbroadband.com [80.249.99.164]
over a maximum of 30 hops:

1 <1 ms <1 ms <1 ms fw.local [192.168.1.1]
2 * * * Request timed out.
3 13 ms 18 ms 8 ms ip-84-38-37-12.easynet.co.uk [84.38.37.12]
4 5 ms 7 ms 6 ms linx-gw2.thdo.ncuk.net [195.66.236.240]
5 9 ms 7 ms 8 ms gi1-24-10-star1.core-rs2.thdo.ncuk.net [80.249.97.9]
6 7 ms 6 ms 6 ms pingbox1.thinkbroadband.com [80.249.99.164]
Trace complete.

black ops server

C:\Users\Francis>tracert 108.61.230.110

Tracing route to 108-61-230-110.constant.com [108.61.230.110]
over a maximum of 30 hops:

1 <1 ms <1 ms <1 ms fw.local [192.168.1.1]
2 * * * Request timed out.
3 6 ms 8 ms 7 ms ip-84-38-37-10.easynet.co.uk [84.38.37.10]
4 7 ms 7 ms 7 ms ae51.edge6.london1.level3.net [212.113.9.53]
5 6 ms 6 ms 6 ms vl-3516-ve-130.csw1.london1.level3.net [4.69.166.78]
6 8 ms 6 ms 6 ms ae-124-3510.edge5.london1.level3.net [4.69.166.37]
7 7 ms 7 ms 6 ms choopa-llc.edge5.london1.level3.net [212.187.138.146]
8 6 ms 7 ms 6 ms 108-61-230-110.constant.com [108.61.230.110]

GBServers
C:\Users\Francis>tracert gbservers.co.uk

Tracing route to gbservers.co.uk [185.10.200.20]
over a maximum of 30 hops:
1 <1 ms <1 ms <1 ms fw.local [192.168.1.1]
2 * * * Request timed out.
3 6 ms 7 ms 7 ms ip-84-38-37-12.easynet.co.uk [84.38.37.12]
4 6 ms 6 ms 6 ms ld5-linx.as29550.net [195.66.236.223]
5 7 ms 7 ms 7 ms te4-2-hex-7600.as29550.net [94.76.244.77]
6 8 ms 8 ms 7 ms as29550-as12703.pab.hex.as29550.net [31.193.143.74]
7 7 ms 7 ms 8 ms te-0-0-0-1.cr01.dc1-mhd.pulsant.net [46.249.196.5]
8 8 ms 8 ms 10 ms te-0-1-0.cs01-1u.dc1-mhd.pulsant.net [46.249.195.10]
9 9 ms 8 ms 8 ms network.gbservers.co.uk [94.76.243.117]
10 7 ms 7 ms 7 ms cheddar.dnsgb.net [185.10.200.20]
Trace complete.

Sky Fibre Unlimited Pro Since 02/12/2013, Sync speeds:
DownStream Connection Speed: 57146
UpStream Connection Speed: 19075
Sky Hub SR101 & Openreach VDSL2 modem
My Broadband Ping
Network Traffic SNMP Monitoring via odmon.com

Edited by francisuk25 (Wed 16-Apr-14 18:50:54)

Standard User R0NSKI
(fountain of knowledge) Wed 16-Apr-14 19:08:02
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I understood it worked at all levels, so on your connection at home and on all the ISP'S combined users. Also I believe the evening hump is capacity getting near to the limit, Plusnet have always been very good at predicting when to purchase more capacity. The hump was getting quite pronounced a while ago and then more capacity came on line and it disappeared for quite some time.

Standard User Chrysalis
(legend) Wed 16-Apr-14 19:27:04
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you seen my post/graphs? for me its came back quite bad for last few weeks.

But I have noticed many other customers graphs look nothing like mine.

It doesnt seem to be affecting my service tho. If it did I would be making lots of noise about it.

Standard User RobertoS
(sensei) Wed 16-Apr-14 19:57:40
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In reply to a post by Chrysalis:
It doesnt seem to be affecting my service tho.
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That's the point non-customers have a problem with smile. It isn't easy to believe until you experience it.

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Connection - Plusnet UnLim Fibre (FTTC). Sync ~ 58.7/14.6Mbps @ 600m. - BQM

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Standard User Andrue
(knowledge is power) Wed 16-Apr-14 21:29:02
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In reply to a post by 5km:
The spikes are caused by my SamKnows whitebox testing the line.
So that's who's using the bandwidth smile

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Andrue Cope
Brackley, UK
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