When I frst went FTTC from O2 LLU I went to IDNet, another highly-rated ISP, from pure nerves.

After 12 months I decided to risk the much improved Plusnet (compared to a few years ago) and saved myself a fortune.

I've not noticed any difference in the performance of my line. Relevant ISP comparisons. Though I'm surprised Sky is still so low, unless there is a huge influence from the pathetic "Sky Connect" product.

You can have a static IP with Sky now if you are on Sky Fibre Pro Unlimited although the IP addresses are 'sticky' on Sky fibre and rarely change.

They are also introducing Line Profile Customisation later on this year on SFUP and the new ADSL2+ Unlimited Pro package although I would guess this will be of more use for those on the ADSL product.

In reply to a post by Hoolay88:

im not bothered at all about bandwidth speeds, i care only for low pings and as stable line as possible for having fast path or as low level of interleaving as possible

That unfortunately will depend on you line quality and length because it's outside of the ISP's control.

In reply to a post by simon194:

You can have a static IP with Sky now if you are on Sky Fibre Pro Unlimited although the IP addresses are 'sticky' on Sky fibre and rarely change.

They are also introducing Line Profile Customisation later on this year on SFUP and the new ADSL2+ Unlimited Pro package although I would guess this will be of more use for those on the ADSL product.

They won't be able to make changes such as target noise margins or turning off interleave on BT openeach's GEA FTTC products , because BTopenreach are the ones with control , they use their DLM on their dslam's in the cabs,Unless they decide to let ISP's have control, in which case the option would be made available to all isp's not only sky, but i don't see that happening anytime soon, Sky are supposed to be going to offer some control on the new pro ADSL product it has created for BE static ip customers ,as it's their own LLU kit in the exchanges

interesting on the static ip.

In reply to a post by Chrysalis:

interesting on the static ip.

Yeah they i think realised it was a popular demand ,due to them having to offer those who had a static with BE a static IP in order to retain some of them, Aread in the BE user forums seems to indicate that sky are up to their old tricks, migrating BEcustomers with no prior notice of the date of the migration ect, then misleading some into beliving that they had entered into a new 12mth min term, lots of underhanded stuff going on apoarently, oh i found this interesting snippet of info on which DLM profile sky select sky select the default stable DLM option botton of the page post by scubbie But the qestion they don't appear to of asked is that BTW 's setting or the BTOR GEA setting , as both are different, i would assume that they refered to the BTOR GEA dlm setting , as they utilise their own backhaul so i assume don't use or order via BTW?

Edited by tommy45 (Fri 18-Apr-14 04:03:31)

correct.

but regardless of which they use they not using the faster profile as on one its speed, on the other its standard.

I always suspected sky were more paranoid about line stability than other isp's due to their weird DLM working upwards instead of downwards, and it seems they carried this paranoia over to their choice of FTTC DLM.

Also its possible that openreach have added a lower snrm profile now.

I 3 days ago resynced with a 4db margin during DLM hours, and the attainable speed reported by the modem reflects a 4db target snrm not 6db.

Even tho right now i have a 4.4db snrm my attainable is higher than my sync speed. This happened at the same time my PSD mask changed.

Max: Upstream rate = 25788 Kbps, Downstream rate = 76016 Kbps
Bearer: 0, Upstream rate = 20000 Kbps, Downstream rate = 75780 Kbps

Edited by Chrysalis (Fri 18-Apr-14 08:27:16)

In reply to a post by RobertoS:

When I frst went FTTC from O2 LLU I went to IDNet, another highly-rated ISP, from pure nerves.

After 12 months I decided to risk the much improved Plusnet (compared to a few years ago) and saved myself a fortune.

I had AAISP ADSL2+ and there wasn't a difference in actual broadband speeds, I knew that going in, wanted Annex M, and they offered it. All the expensive ISP's have over the big ISP's is their support and niche features nowadays.

In reply to a post by RobertoS:

I've not noticed any difference in the performance of my line. Relevant ISP comparisons. Though I'm surprised Sky is still so low, unless there is a huge influence from the pathetic "Sky Connect" product.

Ah yes, "Sky Connect", do they still sell that thing.

There was a slowdown for about a month at peak times, about 5 years ago. That's the only problem I've personally experienced with Sky, other than that I've received full speeds all the time.

MrSaffron should have a decent amount of data for the Sky Fibre products from speed tests, I'm willing to bet the speeds aren't bad.

Plusnet is good as well!

Edited by deleted (Fri 18-Apr-14 20:01:03)

Plusnet is ok if you don't mind being sold a little say upto 5mbps shy on DS throughput,for some FTTC customers ,
Due to Plusnet having a second IP profile that is always set slightly lower than what BT's is set to, coupled with the way their traffic prioritisation works ,

Apparently it's not a case of just speedtests recording a lower speed results due to some buffer ect, but the atcual throughput is around 3% less than what BT ,ZEN ,and other BTW based customers see on FTTC services, the percentage is slightly greater if compared to sky's GEA FTTC because they use PPPOA instead of PPPOE

Edited by tommy45 (Fri 18-Apr-14 20:54:57)

i think my minds made up and set on going with sky. is it possible to use 3rd party routers with sky? ive heard its a bit of hassle