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(deleted) Mon 21-Apr-14 14:03:36
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In reply to a post by BatBoy:
I expect it is, as I'm on Fastpath.
If I was on a "stable" profile, I would expect to be on Interleaving.
If I was on "super-stable" I would expect to have a high level of Interleaving applied.


This doesnt appear to be what you were saying. What you expect to what actually happens are two different things, i understand your point about needing to re sync, but just because someone is on a stable profile, doesnt mean their line is interleaved, if they have short copper distance and low noise/cross talk, they would likely also be on fast path
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(deleted) Mon 21-Apr-14 14:22:27
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In reply to a post by Hoolay88:
In reply to a post by BatBoy:
I expect it is, as I'm on Fastpath.
If I was on a "stable" profile, I would expect to be on Interleaving.
If I was on "super-stable" I would expect to have a high level of Interleaving applied.


This doesnt appear to be what you were saying.
This is exactly what I'm saying. There is no point in being on Fastpath if you are expecting a stable connection as any noise-burst would cause instability, even a one-off bulb blowing on your lighting circuit, whereas an Interleaved connection would correct that.
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(deleted) Mon 21-Apr-14 14:32:24
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but the fact is, thats not the case, as sky uses stable, and some people are on fast path with them so...i dont understand what point you're making...

DLM profile doesnt determine if interleaving is on or off, it just changes the threshold.


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(deleted) Mon 21-Apr-14 14:43:24
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In reply to a post by Hoolay88:
DLM profile doesnt determine if interleaving is on or off
What does, in your opinion?
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(deleted) Mon 21-Apr-14 14:47:34
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but the fact is, thats not the case, as sky uses stable,
I doubt that's true.
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(deleted) Mon 21-Apr-14 14:58:44
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As i said, the hint is in the name, DYNAMIC line management

Also, again, as i said before, it is the line error and connection drops thresholds that are altered between the 3 profiles, making interleaving kick in at a lower threshold on stable than on speed.

Interleaving is set by DLMs data of the line and adds interleaving when required hence "dynamic" as the amount of interleaving can vary or even turn on/off when required, as if a line has a line fault, dlm will kick in and turn interleaving on (as stated by many BT, sky and other isp technicians on their respected forums), once the line issue is resolved, it takes it off if the line allows for it.

What youre saying is each profile has a fixed interleaving/fast path setting which is just completely wrong.
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(deleted) Mon 21-Apr-14 15:19:39
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In reply to a post by Hoolay88:
Interleaving is set by DLMs data of the line and adds interleaving when required hence "dynamic" as the amount of interleaving can vary or even turn on/off when required, as if a line has a line fault, dlm will kick in and turn interleaving on
Sorry, this seems to be the opposite of what you said earlier
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DLM profile doesnt determine if interleaving is on or off
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(deleted) Mon 21-Apr-14 15:21:51
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In reply to a post by Hoolay88:
dlm will kick in and turn interleaving on (as stated by many BT, sky and other isp technicians on their respected forums)
This I think illustrates the error you're making. Everyone is on Speed.
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(fountain of knowledge) Mon 21-Apr-14 15:26:03
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I think Hoolday88 is more correct, interleaving and fast path are not directly linked to the three profiles. I think each profile has differing allowable levels of errors before interleaving or higher levels of interleaving are applied.

My line regularly switches between fast past and interleaving, and I'm pretty certain no ones altering my line profile wink

I'm sure someone who has a much better understanding of things will be along to explain it better

Edit: According to this post from 2012 Zen do put people on the speed profile by default

Edited by R0NSKI (Mon 21-Apr-14 15:28:19)

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im not going to debate it any more with you, as ive explained as simply as i can and you're still either misreading or misunderstanding what im saying.
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