Ah, I didn't know VDSL was unavailable under 2Mbps. Yes, looks like you're right - E.g. an address slightly further out like Roseacre, SO21 1HF (about 1.6km from the cab) gives "Up to 2.5Mbps" for ADSL2+ but only 2.1Mbps for FTTC (Clean High). Much further out than that and FTTC stops appearing on the wholesale checker.

Does this basically mean FTTC/VDSL will never be an option for properties further out from the cab than that? If so, it doesn't really tie up with the "due to be covered by commercial upgrades" info from the hants.gov.uk site. Or do Openreach have other plans up their sleeves?

Ah okay, thanks again Ribble. 31 certainly seems to have a wide and extensive area of coverage!

Does this basically mean FTTC/VDSL will never be an option for properties further out from the cab than that?

Yes, but the way around it is to either to place fibre and the electronics closer to the DP or rearrange the DP to another fibre cab that is closer/ shorter line length. Neither is going to happen as part of the commercial program which is basically done and dusted now.

ribble are you in a hamlet / or in a village - you could have a direct conversation with openreach around community funding a new pcp / dsalm for village

I Recently just noticed our roadside bt phoneline box in the street where i live has just been upgraded to a brand new big green box and also i noticed that there was green tubing inserted underground attached the cabinet in which i believe is fibre optic tubing,and i also was told by a openreach manager a while ago that the cabinet in question,was the last cabinet box in the area to have the upgrade and installation of fibre optic installed on that green roadside cabinet box the number for the box Is P6 It stands on the street junction between STAPLE GARDENS WINCHESTER SO23 8SJ AND ST CROSS STREET in winchester city centre its is attached to my phoneline as im aware of this ,like i said a brand new roadside cabinet box has been installed replacing the previous old styled out of date box which was there ,the new one has big double doors and is bigger and also has two double locks and has some sort of date attached to it say 7/7 Is that mean from the 7th of july the fibre optic will flow from the exchange to that box?i have spoke to my broadband provider they can see that something is happening but when they put my details in it comes up as uncomfirmed at present meaning yes its available but as to say a uncomfirmed date as to be when its be available on that street cabinet which just been installed ,so would it be possible when it is available ?on that cabinet box P6 in staple gardens winchester ?Also ive noticed bt openreach engineers taking photographs of the old box before the new box was installed like i said i know its the last box in the city centre to be upgraded to fibre optic installation .