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Standard User RobertoS
(elder) Tue 01-Jul-14 20:06:37
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Re: Is the expected uplift speed written in stone


[re: 69bertie] [link to this post]
 
So are you now saying your line is connected direct to the exchange, not to cabinet 2?

If you put your phone number, (not address), into this checker, it gives you a table of estimated speeds. The line above that table like "Telephone Number xxxxxxxxx on Exchange STEPPING HILL is served by Cabinet xx".

If it doesn't give the cabinet number you may be on an Exchange Only line and wouldn't be able to get FTTC.

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Connection - Plusnet UnLim Fibre (FTTC). Sync ~ 58.7/14.6Mbps @ 600m. - BQM

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Standard User deleted
(deleted) Tue 01-Jul-14 22:07:19
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[re: 69bertie] [link to this post]
 
Apart from looking all over that cabinet or having a word with anyone you see working on it or by elimination against other, identifiable ones, ..............

Also look for cabinets near concentration points of Overhead wiring. I noted one village last week, where the hidden cabinet could be fairly readily tracked down by such wiring. Possibly a special case.

Keep in mind that the 7270 Metres is the electrical length, right back to the Exchange, inclusive of the Cabinet.

For FTTC/VDSL it is the final part, from that Cabinet to your house, plus any added by the FTTC Link, are the criteria for the (future) VDSL performance.
Standard User Andrue
(knowledge is power) Wed 02-Jul-14 06:12:41
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In reply to a post by 69bertie:
I have this gut feeling that the cabinet just around the corner isn't what you mean when you mention a PCP cabinet (given the line length).
Line length has no direct bearing on distance to cabinet. The only (somewhat vague) correlation is that very short lines might not have a cabinet and if you are part of a small isolated community you might not have a cabinet.

But if you know you have a cabinet there is no reason why it can't be within 50 metres. A 'distribution cabinet' is basically what a PCP is. It's where a thick bundle of copper wires coming from the exchange is split into the individual cable runs for properties. It's a sensible and logical way to run wiring and from an engineering point of view it makes sense to have it close to the properties it serves.

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Andrue Cope
Brackley, UK

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Standard User deleted
(deleted) Wed 02-Jul-14 07:26:31
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[re: 69bertie] [link to this post]
 
Just in case of confusion, a PCP Cabinet is NOT an FTTC Cabinet.

The FTTC Cabinet is an obvious recent addition to the Network generally, to receive the Fibre extended from the Exchange; and is positioned relatively "close" to the existing PCP.

In my daughter's case, about 10 Metres away, both geographically and electrically, so that the necessary links are very short.

In my case the FTTC Cabinet is about 40 Metres geographically from the PCP including the width if a road, whilst the links double back by about 5 Metres towards the Exchange to an Underground chamber, before turning around and heading under that road to the PCP and the onward connection to the various houses.

There is no obvious reason for this wide separation.

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If the "Cabinet 2" you referred to is from the BRAS Test, then you are apparently on a Cabinet-equipped line, and normally these are relatively close to the groups of houses, businesses etc that are connected to it.

Not necessarily central, not necessarily peripheral; but generally in that area.
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(deleted) Wed 02-Jul-14 08:22:59
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PCP 2
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(deleted) Wed 02-Jul-14 10:08:47
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Just re-reading that response, I have my doubts that OR would install a 7270 M (about 4 mile) cable for one (domestic?) customer.

It may be that a relatively short length was taken to another PCP (if any) possibly lengthening your line; but not requiring such a length of totally new line.

If the latter is the case, then PCP "Cabinet 2" may be in a slightly more remote location than normally expected; but probably still within the village.
Standard User 69bertie
(newbie) Wed 02-Jul-14 19:56:00
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eckiedoo ....Just re-reading that response, I have my doubts that OR would install a 7270 M (about 4 mile) cable for one (domestic?) customer.
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I wasn't the only customer (others had been waiting ages before I moved in) but despite having a phone line from the local distribution box to my house, while the house had been empty for one year, my pair back to wherever, had been used for someone else. I ended up waiting nearly 6 months for a phone line. And yes, a new cable was laid all the way back to wherever (roads, ditches towards the next village were dug up with new ducting, boxes etc installed. I even had the CEO of BT and my Member of Parliament involved at the end. Amazing what having a moan can do i.e. along the lines of is the UK a 3rd world country etc when it can't even provide a phone line to a built up area. smile

However, the length that I was told that needed to be laid (hence the wait) was nearer 4km (not 7km) which implies Cabinet 2 is probably located in the next village i.e. Faldingworth which is towards the exchange, for which I do see telecom roadworks planned. I will go looking smile

RobertoS

Telephone Number 01673****** on Exchange WICKENBY is served by Cabinet 2

Featured Products Downstream Line Rate(Mbps) Upstream Line Rate(Mbps) Downstream Range(Mbps)
Availability Date ADSL Max Up to 0.5 -- 0.25 to 1.5 Available
Fixed Rate 2 -- -- Available

If it does turn out that the download speed is going to be around the 8mb/s mark, I shall have another word with the local wireless people to see if things have improved on that front - there was an obstacle in the way last time they tried but I see their transmitter has grown in height since. 25mb/s unlimited (which they offer nigh on for the same price as BT) sounds far better than even an 8mb/s service.
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(deleted) Wed 02-Jul-14 20:12:48
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http://forums.thinkbroadband.com/fibre/t/4339469-re-...
Standard User RobertoS
(elder) Thu 03-Jul-14 00:34:40
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That sounds as if the new cable was an increased supply to PCP 2. Ribble gave you a link in the morning to a picture of it, and has repeated it.

My broadband basic info/help site - www.robertos.me.uk | Domains,site and mail hosting - Tsohost.
Connection - Plusnet UnLim Fibre (FTTC). Sync ~ 58.7/14.6Mbps @ 600m. - BQM

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Edited by RobertoS (Thu 03-Jul-14 00:35:31)

Standard User 69bertie
(newbie) Thu 03-Jul-14 05:50:42
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Apologies............ didn't realise it was a link, Yes, that is the box that I see quite often and a good three miles from here frown
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