Sorry I misquoted my line, I am unsure where I got those figures from.

Though still I mean I get 76 down which is still pretty darn fast.

Well OSX has added a lot on top of the base kernel than Android so far. But then Apple isn't really a driving force in OS', but more in making really cheap items expensive.

Ah I know, I quoted my companies fibre quote from my emails.

Yeah, honest mistake there, I was juggling.

I guess you're right.

Apple have added about $100 and shiny shiny stuff to BSD.

Google added $0 and voice/video calling, proper data connection support, the whole Dalvik VM concept ,etc to linux.

Ok fair enough, I guess Android has come along way since I last checked.

I guess I better change my thinking of it.

You're right that Google would have to overbuild some of the infrastructure if they bought (or partnered with) WightFibre, but there's also quite a bit just sitting there unused.

15 years ago when it was Isle of Wight Cable they dug up a lot of the streets in my town and put in the cabinets and ductwork. They then ran out of money before running any cable through all that infrastructure.

They've been bought out several times since, but the street cabinets and ducting in my town have remained empty for 15 years.

If they were to partner with/get bought out by Google a lot of that infrastructure could be repurposed for a lot less money than digging new in other urban areas.

Their are about 5565 exchanges in the UK, BT wholesale 21CN and TT llu have about 2762/2720 exchanges which is about 90% of all lines, Sky has a few hundred less exchanges. (numbers from sam knows).

2803 exchanges are not enabled for 21CN and the rollout will likely not go much further as the exchanges are too small and not economically viable, unless public subsidy is used.

FTTC rollout will reach 90% by 2015 and 95% by 2017, as its a cabinet based rollout smaller exchanges will have FTTC cabs deployed but the fibre will go back to larger head end exchanges.

With FTTC and FTTRN their will be less need to 21CN every exchange but it depends on each county BDUK project, usc targets will be put back for BDUK 2 funding and further fibre.

BDUK claims 87% for phase 1 in Essex and phase 2 is undefined as yet. I live and work in 3 different parts of Essex, neither of which will be covered by phase 1. Home is a 20CN exchange and work 1 a 21CN but get 2 Meg on a good day (very long line) and cabinet isn't part of any plans.
Work 2 is in the BDUK rollout but it's a exchange only line so no FTTC either.

Personally, I feel BT should have been forced (as maintainer of the core components of the communications network) to upgrade all exchanges, not just those it deems commercially viable.

In reply to a post by MrSaffron:

Keep trying to discover number of Google Fiber customers but for some reason never announced

From what I gather from contacts in Austin, the network takes forever to build, so the number of passed homes is very small, and the number of people taking it up from those homes is equally small. Especially when most people have a cable internet around 30Mbps or faster today anyway.

Have to wait on the BDUK project and their will be a extension to take coverage to 95% between 2015-17 so you could be covered then.

If BT where forced then expect prices to rise significantly to cover the costs, it would all be passed onto the consumer.

Google fiber would be good to see but its only talk at current and unlikely to progress from their.

Google fiber would be good but how long did it take; to build..?

NTL ex CableTel 1993
telewest was Croydon Cable 1984

Edited by francisuk25 (Sat 19-Jul-14 02:52:14)