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Standard User RobertoS
(elder) Sun 10-Aug-14 13:48:10
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Re: Router for 330Mbps FTTP


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This doesn't sound to me to be particularly practicable. tongue

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Connection - Plusnet UnLim Fibre (FTTC). Sync ~ 56.6/14.1Mbps @ 600m. - BQM

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Standard User deleted
(deleted) Sun 10-Aug-14 14:46:06
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It is FTTPoD. It's not installed yet though so I don't want to tempt fate. I'll post about my experience (7 months since ordering and counting...) once it's all installed...
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(deleted) Sun 10-Aug-14 15:11:41
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In reply to a post by panda:
I've no experience of the RV325, but one consideration is the requirement for PPP can have a great impact on published performance, as datasheets will usually paint the best picture.

This thread has some discussion on the issue and some suggestions for suitable CPE.


Thank you - that thread was what I needed


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Standard User deleted
(deleted) Sun 10-Aug-14 15:22:08
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I've got 330/30Mbps FTTP (from plusnet) and am successfully using the Asus RT-N66U, running the Asuswrt-Merlin firmware version 3.0.0.4.374.43_0 and would recommend it as it works - ie is reliable and can handle up to 330Mbps. As to fast, it's fast enough for my family's use, using a mixture of homeplugs and wifi.

I don't know if the stock Asus firmware is now capable of handling 330Mpbs as I haven't tried it for some time. See the Asuswrt-Merlin forum on the SmallNetBuilder website for more information on Asus routers and firmware, and users' experience. Plusnet also have a forum for fttp users on their community pages.

I don't know anything about the Cisco RV325 but at £240 is seems to be overkill, plus will it work with 330Mbps?

As a thought, isn't your ISP providing you with a suitable router to use?
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(deleted) Sun 10-Aug-14 16:00:42
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The Asus RT-N66U is soooooooo yesterday. I've just bought Asus's latest offering the RT-AC87U (from US) and the wifi on this is absolutely brilliant, not only on AC clients but also on a/b/g/n clients. My router is on ground floor and 2 floors up my desktop is getting the full 76 meg speeds on wifi AC.....just like having an invisible ethernet cable connected smile
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(deleted) Sun 10-Aug-14 16:40:12
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I don't think much has changed since that thread.

Consumer routers are still using those same weak SOCs and most will be unable to achieve your full speed because PPPoE is usually unaccelerated. Even if they can achieve those speeds the CPU will be so overloaded that you won't be able to do anything else on the router (QOS, etc).

Your best bet is to build a router yourself, or find one that will offload the PPP connection onto hardware.

The Ubiquiti Edgerouter line gained PPP offload in a recent firmware and should be able to meet your requirements and still have plenty of oomph left over. Like the Cisco you'll need to pair it with wireless access points (Ubiquiti have a line of these too, starting from around £55). The 3-port Edgerouter Lite costs around £85, with the 5-port Edgerouter POE (handy for those access points) is around £145.

Linitx is the official distributor and the cheapest place i've found in the UK for the Edgerouters (but their site is currently down). Amazon is slightly cheaper for the entry-level Unifi AP.

Building yourself with something like pfSense you might be able to get away with PC Engine's new APU system. It bottle-necks at around 670Mbps without PPPoE but i don't think anyone's actually benchmarked it with PPPoE. Failing that you may have to go Intel. Even a 2006-era Core2Duo will have no problem at over 700Mbps PPPoE.

If i were in your shoes i'd probably go with the Ubiquiti Edgerouter and a Unifi AP. If the Edgerouter didn't suit (which would be surprising) i'd replace it with an Intel Atom-based pfSense box but keep the Unifi APs.

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Standard User Zadeks
(experienced) Sun 10-Aug-14 17:38:08
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ISP?
Installation cost?
Cost per month?
Standard User jchamier
(eat-sleep-adslguide) Mon 11-Aug-14 00:16:20
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Re: Router for 330Mbps FTTP


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In reply to a post by rhetherington:
I don't think much has changed since that thread.

Consumer routers are still using those same weak SOCs and most will be unable to achieve your full speed because PPPoE is usually unaccelerated. Even if they can achieve those speeds the CPU will be so overloaded that you won't be able to do anything else on the router (QOS, etc).


Er, the post two up says the Merlin firmware on the ASUS RT-N66U can do 330Mbps with PPPoE thanks to hardware acceleration. It was supported in the broadcom CPU but not enabled in the original firmware. The AC models should also be capable as well.

Lot easier than building custom solutions smile

James - plusnet unlimited fibre - 2 Jun 14 - 470m - Sync 55/9.4 (BT was 51/9.8)
15 years broadband (1999 ntl:cable trial) - Asus RT-AC68U with HG612 - PN BQM - PN speed - old BT speed
Standard User jchamier
(eat-sleep-adslguide) Mon 11-Aug-14 00:18:39
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In reply to a post by adebov:
(and from a provider no one's heard of before)

Gradwell was my hosting company for ages. Peter (the MD) is another internet expert with "clue" similar to AAISP but in the same way neither of the companies are cheap.

Gradwell are generally now a VoIP company, and I suspect their connectivity side is a resale of someone else.

James - plusnet unlimited fibre - 2 Jun 14 - 470m - Sync 55/9.4 (BT was 51/9.8)
15 years broadband (1999 ntl:cable trial) - Asus RT-AC68U with HG612 - PN BQM - PN speed - old BT speed
Standard User RobertoS
(elder) Mon 11-Aug-14 00:21:21
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When I was with Newnet Gradwell were the VOIP supplier to their customers. As Timico now own Newnet, maybe Timico are the supplier?

My broadband basic info/help site - www.robertos.me.uk | Domains,site and mail hosting - Tsohost.
Connection - Plusnet UnLim Fibre (FTTC). Sync ~ 56.6/14.1Mbps @ 600m. - BQM

"Where talent is a dwarf, self-esteem is a giant." - Jean-Antoine Petit-Senn.
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Allergy information: This post was manufactured in an environment where nuts are present. It may include traces of understatement, litotes and humour.
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