In reply to a post by Chrysalis:

maybe but back then "up to" wasnt used on the headline name of dialup services I paid for.

I think that because "back then", all speeds related to the achievable modem speed - not line speed.

Edited by deleted (Sat 06-Sep-14 15:39:29)

You could use this with you landline number (wont work on Sky/TalkTalk)
https://www.btwholesale.com/includes/adsl/main.html

Depends.

The DLM on FTTC I think is far more aggressive than ADSL2+ which can help in some situations.

As far as speed is concerned, FTTC will definitely be more stable at the same speed as ADSL because it will have more headroom.

Have you checked to see whether there's a fault on your line by doing the quiet line test?

It could be a high resistance fault - We had one a few years ago and suffered from constant random disconnections.

With any luck the fault (If there is one) could be on the D-Side of the Local Loop you're on.

Noticed any change in reliability since FTTC was installed in your cabinet?

I agree. Dialup was just sold as internet access. You just got told what the modem banks were capable of.

My first ADSL service was a fixed 2Mbps service, supplied by Demon as a trial service, when BT were first introducing DSL.

Because I was connected so early, I didn't pay too much attention to the adverts, but I don't recall that the 512Kb, 1Mb or 2Mb fixed services were ever sold as "up to". I thought that label came along later with ADSL Max.

They were a fixed connection sync with the 50:1 or 20:1 contention ratios. On ADSL Max and later those ratios no longer apply and the sync speed became variable, with the throughput even more so. Barring FTTP.

The "up to" AIUI has always applied to the sync speed, not the throughput, except when badly trained CS staff wrongly believe otherwise.

Regarding the 56 K Modems, my one consistently achieved around 47 K, with occasional excursions up to 53 Kilo Baud.

The owner of the local computer shop lived in a town about 11 miles away, its own exchange etc; and his modem could only achieve about 30 K, occasionally 33 K.

Done the quiet line test, abit of noise there but nothing major (used a cordless phone too and read this can affect the quiet line test)

Noticed any change in reliability since FTTC was installed in your cabinet?

Yes actually, any reason for that? Ive noticed less disconnects since we have been able to get fibre, never really thought about it until you mentioned that

Ah yes - that's about right, I reckon.

In reply to a post by bobble_bob:

Done the quiet line test, abit of noise there but nothing major (used a cordless phone too and read this can affect the quiet line test)

Hmm can you try with a corded phone by any chance?

In reply to a post by bobble_bob:

Yes actually, any reason for that? Ive noticed less disconnects since we have been able to get fibre, never really thought about it until you mentioned that

It could be that since people have been adopting FTTC in your area, the D-Side cable is now suffering from less crosstalk due to the lower number of people signed up to ADSL (Which uses the D-Side cables).

I'd try and do a quiet line test when your line resyncs and see whether you can hear crackling which could be the sign of a fault.

Only got a cordless phone.

Id be surprised if there was a fault, considering now i can go 10 days+ without a single resync. Thats just an average though

Maybe a daft question, but during the quiet line test is there meant to be zero noise on the line? Or is some minimal noise expected

Edited by bobble_bob (Sun 07-Sep-14 17:31:07)