Yep, it sadly as BT Openreach might not go ahead with vectoring now. As BT are eyeing G.fast instead.

I think BT should focus on vectoring as the higher priority first than the G.fast.

BT trial too much on vectoring and never release to nationwide (don't think it gonna to happen now)

Edited by adslmax (Sat 27-Sep-14 11:52:04)

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Yep, it sadly as BT Openreach might not go ahead with vectoring now. As BT are eyeing G.fast instead.

How do you reach this conclusion?

Aren't BT allowed to look at both vectoring & G.fast at the same time? They're looking at plenty of things in their research divison.

Given where both schemes are in the ITU approval cycle, I'd say that G.fast is running about 5 years behind Vectoring. I wouldn't expect BT to even start to contemplate G.fast deployment for another 4-5 years - and that is only from a technical perspective.

If you consider things from a market, or demand, perspective, it might be even longer. They're getting a reasonably good uptake of NGA subscribers, but there aren't many of those that have already upgraded who *need* more, and are willing to pay more for the privilege. I'd guess at less than 10% of the current NGA subscribers - a group which is itself around 15% of the properties in the NGA coverage area.

funny enough tho I cannot see BT deploying vectoring for 5 years either.

if it needs new ECI kit and its not economical to replace the kit for 7-8 years why bother just jump to g.fast.

Edited by Chrysalis (Sat 27-Sep-14 12:59:57)

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funny enough tho I cannot see BT deploying vectoring for 5 years either.

if it needs new ECI kit and its not economical to replace the kit for 7-8 years why bother just jump to g.fast.

Good point.

Vectoring only requires changes at the existing cabinet sites, while G.fast requires you to deploy nodes elsewhere, so there's a different momentum needed behind the two ideas before the board would say "Lets go".

Vectoring also (likely) allows services to be sold at 100Mbps, just, which ticks a box for the EU 2020 targets. That might add a political dimension behind vectoring's momentum.

But a failure to have an ECI solution could stop that. There is nothing wrong with deploying vectoring to Huawei sites alone, of course, but you can't really market the improved speeds until the solution is cross-platform.

BUT...

Your point raises an entirely different direction that BT could go.

If they're not going to bother with vectoring, and jump to G.fast, then they'll obviously have to deploy nodes in places deeper than the PCP. Why not start now?

Stop deploying FTTC cabinets, and start deploying FTTRN nodes instead, deeper in the network. Let them use VDSL2 for now (vectored or not), but make them plug-compatible with G.fast nodes in the future.

Kinda like the Swiss are doing with their FTTS deployment, except they are still deploying vectoring.