Then again, the guy rodding the drains doesn't need to know exactly how the ordure got there, just how to make it flow as best is possible.

Edited by Zarjaz (Mon 06-Oct-14 23:16:31)

That sounds very promising. The charity I work for have just bought a farm outside of Holsworthy and checking out the availability of broadband it seems the site is on an EO line (well, the current line, we've just ordered an additional line from Zen). Checking the postcode on the Connecting Devon & Somerset web site suggests that the location wasn't due for upgrading with the current funding and it could be 2017, so I'm staying ever hopeful (we've got 2 other sites in similar situations, too remote to warrant being upgraded).

Still fingers crossed things will change as time goes on

Rob

Ross

Really it is political.

I have seen fibre cabinets erected before the houses have been built, although houses dont take long to buil now. Probably possible to build a house quicker than openreach can change a plug.

if this iteh case they wll not be fibre cabinerts they will be copper cabs where te devloper has only reaquested voice serviuce (no fibre)-- there will be no fibre on these developments unless someone funds it

In reply to a post by Fastman2:

if this iteh case they wll not be fibre cabinerts they will be copper cabs where te devloper has only reaquested voice serviuce (no fibre)-- there will be no fibre on these developments unless someone funds it

It is in a contracters best interest to provide Fibre for any new home buyer, not in the interests of BDUK or council funding. However I have no doubt funding will have been wrongly used for this purpose as a sweetner to bring jobs etc to local areas.

It is about priorities and a new build may be part of a wider investment, e.g. new housing to accommodate and attract firms to an area as part of a wider regeneration scheme, and thus broadband provision is a key part of this.

Oddly its usually new build estates complaining about the lack of fibre based broadband, so would be interesting to find out exactly which roads/cabinets are involved.

It is also possible the cabinets might have been deployed as part of the commercial roll-out, or part funded by the developer. Or they might even be Virgin Media cabinets.

Bringing jobs to an area is a pretty important thing for councils to do.

All new estates built here have fibre installed, I thought this was the norm and would be facilitated or at least partly by the constructor. Where openreach fibre is not provided Virgin are providing.

Virgin media have some investment in the local area here now, having purchased Small world. It has a tiny footprint though but they are looking at expansion.


From Virgin:

Hi Ross,

Thank you for your enquiry regarding Virgin Media providing digital services at your home.

Unfortunately this area is too far from our existing network to be cabled by our infill activity.

To cable this area would require a major network extension. At this time, we do not have a programme of construction activity for towns and villages outwith our existing network. Our build programme is almost entirely focussed around working with builders and developers to cable new estates within our existing network footprint.

As we find new ways of serving areas such as this that are outwith the existing network, we will look at your request further and may be able to include this in build programmes in future years. However at this time, we will not be able to provide cable service to this area.

I appreciate this is not good news, but be assured we will continue to look for other solutions that may help us achieve this in the future.

Best regards

The Cablemystreet Team
Virgin Media | 1 South Gyle Crescent Lane , Edinburgh EH12 9EG

I was disapointed by this as I would love to be able to get Virgin Cable.

A relative moved into a new build in December last year. Still no fibre yet (despite the rest of the town being enabled and they are connected to a cabinet). BT said they were doing FTTP to the estate and that it would be in be April 14 but that hasn't happened. BDUK project has said it is in a phase next year for FTTC. Waiting to see which one might happen.

The developers seemed to have no particular interest in providing fibre and didn't seem to consider it important.

And here is where?

1000's of homes in Swindon will say the opposite and on new build estates we have featured news where firms like IFNL have delivered full FTTH without recourse to public money.

There is also example of a new build in Basingstoke, Virgin offered, builder refused and now campaigning to get Openreach to come to the flats.

Also see people in homes built since county projects conducted their Open Market Reviews that are being bypassed since they missed out on the initial planning.

In reply to a post by ian72:

A relative moved into a new build in December last year. Still no fibre yet (despite the rest of the town being enabled and they are connected to a cabinet). BT said they were doing FTTP to the estate and that it would be in be April 14 but that hasn't happened. BDUK project has said it is in a phase next year for FTTC. Waiting to see which one might happen.

The developers seemed to have no particular interest in providing fibre and didn't seem to consider it important.

Thats surprising as you would think they would try to make the sales as attractive as possible. Fibre provision and possible cable would be one of the first things I would consider.

How exactly do you guys get info from the bduk project?

Ive tried contacting our local MP, who in turn contacted Openreach and passed the buck completly.

what openreach say:

For exchange only lines the Scottish Government are keen to ensure no premise is left behind, regardless of how they are currently served. Our supplier has developed solution to fit most scenarios, for exchange only lines this might be providing a technology called fibre to the premise (fttp), this involved running fibre directly from an exchange to a home, so no need for a cabinet. Another solution is to build a new fibre to the cabinet network in the local area, this would involve putting new cabinets in at street level. Many of the areas which are poorly served would have up to now had little chance of improvement, that is why the Scottish Government is making an intervention, commercial bodies by default tend to only go where they can make a profitable investment. We aren�t able to confirm what technologies are being used until we start to build in an area, East Ayrshire is a council that have invested additional funding to the programme to maximise coverage to premises such as yourself. I would encourage you to keep an eye on the local press and our website over the coming week for further information in relation to East Ayrshire. I don�t know if you have managed to have a look at the video we have released on programme, but it�s pretty good at explaining the various solution available. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SPgsCwMtjww&feature=e...

I would be most keen to know if there is another avenue of contact I could make.

I have tried Digital Scotland who say they respond to enquiries within 3 days, they have now ignored 3 enquiries,

Perhaps my name and email sets of a trigger!

BDUK here is pretty easy to contact. Emailed them on their published email address and had a response back within 24 hours. Just depends on the BDUK project and the team behind it as to how quickly they might respond (if at all).

Rather than your MP you might want to try your local councillor if you aren't getting any joy as they may have easier access to the right people. Although not sure exactly how the projects are structured for Scotland.

And yes - amazed the builder didn't get fibre in. But my brother didn't have it on the top of his list so didn't really ask about broadband before he bought - and then complained about how slow it was after he moved in. Personally broadband is one of my key considerations in a house although my fibre is not quite as good as I would like it is good enough for now.

And around here there is virtually no Virgin. Only 2 towns in the County have Virgin and the County town doesn't because they refused the planning permission for cable back in the 8i0's - wouldn't let them dig up the roads/pavements.