Strange. Overnight the modem cleared and reset the connection 3 times. Now my sync has dropped to 67xxx, I'm less happy - given that if the building next door was slimmer I would be able to see the cab from here so its not at all far, and initially I had a sync of 79xxx. Throughput is now 56173, that's a big drop from yesterday too.The bottom of the impacted range on the checker is 58.8.
Ive checked the Fritz setting but it is as I always leave it - "maintain permanent connection", the option to periodically reset is one I don't use.

I know its probably training time - but I still wonder about the drops I have had for more than 10 years on ADSL, the only copper left is the part Openjoke have been very reluctant to do anything about. As I have said time and again I'm sure the copper here is knackered, but as BT have a monopoly here I have little chance of getting a decent quality out of them.

Its... disappointing...

Edited by deleted (Fri 26-Dec-14 09:56:31)

The obvious thing....LAN 1 on modem to WAN port on pppoe router.

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WAN1 is the only port in use on my 612 so it isnt exactly rocket science to get that right - tried using the Fritz LAN1/LAN1 as it is supposed to be able to be used that way but behind the 612 there was no access.

We tried all sorts of things while we were talking to support, the problem seems to be the HG612. We couldn't even get a PPPOE connection using a macbook thru the 612 as support said we should be able to (and walked us through it to be sure we were setting it the right way), but as soon as I swapped the 612 for the Fritz and put in the settings we were away. It may not be the recommended/supported unit but it works and for me that's the winner.

In reply to a post by warweezil:

I know its probably training time

There isn't a "training period" as such with FTTC.

Generally, DLM ignores you for the first day you are connected. It then monitors "properly" on the second day, and decides whether to intervene overnight. If it does intervene, you'll resync sometime between midnight and 8am with the new line profile.

DLM will then monitor every day, and make new decisions after each 24h period.

When it intervenes, the usual first level of intervention adds FEC and interleaving: FEC will reduce your sync speed by between 10% and 20%, and the interleaving will add 8ms to latency, though it usually measures around 10ms higher on round-trip ping times.

It sounds like DLM has intervened overnight between your 2nd and 3rd days.

If you have access to the statistics, DLM will be watching the ES count over 24 hours.

Fritz stats

Negotiated Connection Properties
Receive Direction Send Direction
Max. DSLAM throughput kbit/s 80000 20000
Min. DSLAM throughput kbit/s 128 128
Attainable data rate kbit/s 67776 31090
Current throughput kbit/s 67504 19992
Seamless rate adaptation off off

Latency 6 ms 8 ms
Impulse Noise Protection 3 4
G.INP off off

Signal-to-noise ratio dB 6 11
Bitswap on on
Line attenuation dB 15 21

Profile 17a
G.Vector off off

Carrier record A43 A43

Error Counter
Seconds With Not Remediable Errors (CRC)
Errors (ES) ManyErrors (SES) perMinute Last15 Minutes
FRITZ!Box 74 12 1 0
Central exchange 0 0 0 0

Hope you can read the stats I sorted them out to be easily readable but on previewing the post the forum seems to have screwed them all together which is rather frustrating.

I did notice a huge number of ES last night somewhere like 300 after only a couple of hours. seems to have settled now tho.

Id still like to get to the bottom of the initial problem, I'm assuming its a borked HG612.

Had another d/c in the night now at 71576/20000.

The Fritzbox seems to be working well.

Ooph - Those first stats are quite nasty, showing an INP setting for both downstream & upstream; DLM must have been annoyed at your line

The ES threshold depends on the setting; Plusnet seems to put people on the easiest going setting with the loosest thresholds. When they apply, you need the ES counter to go up by over 2,880 in 24 hours for DLM to intervene. It would need to go up by less than 288 over the same period for DLM to reduce intervention ... but DLM would need to see that good behaviour for a few days before relenting (sometimes a lot of days!)

The fact that DLM has relented once already may indeed suggest it was the HG612, and things are now going well. Just keep an eye on the changes to the ES counter.

Still waiting for some activity here, seems they are quoting March for some areas now, truly pathetic

Have they told you what the delay is now? If that date is from Superfarce Cymru I be a little wary, they don't seem to have a clue about where stuff is really at. I found that involving my A.M. seemed to get information flowing, albeit NOT from Superfarce.

Same here in Tenby. Most cabs have been in and have had their power hooked up for about 6 weeks now but nothing. They were mean't to be live by end of 2014 but now date has slipped to March 2015 and Superfarce have told me that they have faced 'Considerable difficulty' getting the fibre to Tenby but that they expect the 1st cabs to be live well before March.

Now we all know that Haverfordwest is the headend for all of Pembs but they've got it as far as Saunderfoot (which went live end of 2014) so I can't see a major challenge getting it the extra 3 miles!

Did see on roadworks.org last week that they were unblocking some ducts in Pentlepoir so maybe that was it!?!?!