In reply to a post by Taras:

Do you have a single drop wire into your house or multiple ?

One of the recent BTOR engineers told me I had 5 wires coming into or available to me. One is knackered (because he was there in the first place due to my phone line failing), two are used for my current private and business lines, which leaves 2 free.
They are underground, coming from a BT box sunk in the neighbours garden

If original poster is still here and reading then email me [email protected] will need the full address and the telephone numbers (less useful as is TalkTalk I believe, but can be helpful) and will pursue with Openreach.

Projects are doing various bits of copper re-arrangement and very likely a large ISP will not understand the nuances this creates and it can take time for databases to reflect the reality on the ground and vice versa.

In reply to a post by MrSaffron:

If original poster is still here and reading then email me [email protected] will need the full address and the telephone numbers (less useful as is TalkTalk I believe, but can be helpful) and will pursue with Openreach.

Projects are doing various bits of copper re-arrangement and very likely a large ISP will not understand the nuances this creates and it can take time for databases to reflect the reality on the ground and vice versa.

Thanks Andrew I appreciate that. I will send details now.

how did you manage to get your line moved, as this is uncommon with openreach.

It seems to be happening as standard...

Missing from the earliest posts is the fact that this is in NI, and part of their broadband improvement project, which is really a second phase of subsidised FTTC deployment.

Demographics in NI makes for a higher proportion of rural properties, and a higher proportion of longer lines... so this second phase has to support properties that turned out to be too far from the original cabs done in the first phase.

The solution seems to be a second layer of FTTC cabinets, but installed as an "all-in-one" combined PCP and DSLAM (although maybe better termed "combined SCP and DSLAM").

I guess it is similar to the FTTRN node we have heard about over here.

ok thanks

In some ways it makes sense as it increases superfast bb availability and yet not fully FTTRN which would be at a further stage.. I suspect other areas will ge the same treatment.

I suspect where i am, they will end up with an onsie as it will solve quite a few problems despite having a cab enabled (in the wrong place).

I think the main problem, for small deployments at the outer fringes of existing PCPs, is the provision of power.

If each new box, whether an all-in-one, or an FTTRN node, needs a separate power supply, then the provisioning cost for power will make things less economic.

It'll be interesting to see how many lines end up being supported by these new nodes in the NI project.

i think the cost vs number of installs on that cab will be interesting but i doubt that will ever come out publicly.

Hopefully there will be some take up statistics at some point, however the cost of this cabinet alone, i dread to think just how much it's cost the Northern Irish government (who have no money at the best of times.)

Edited by deleted (Fri 23-Jan-15 20:47:27)