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(deleted) Sat 14-Mar-15 14:51:19
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Erm, plugged into the Test socket the speed has now increased to 13Mbps!

Plugging back into the Master Socket with Cordless phone/ Sky box (everything in house) unplugged it goes back down to 4Mbps...

Whats the next step? Even though BT will have sent Openreach out next week will they charge us as it's an internal wiring issue??
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(staff) Sat 14-Mar-15 15:06:14
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If it was me, I'd temporarily run it with faceplate off and just one phone plugged into the microfilter.

The cost option for improving things is a VDSL2 faceplate easy to fit and should reduce the effect of the extension wiring.

The free version is to remove the ring wire see http://www.thinkbroadband.com/faq/sections/radsl.htm...

Very likely to get a charge if it is an internal wiring issue.

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(deleted) Sat 14-Mar-15 15:12:46
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Thank you, I will order a new faceplate today and hopefully that will resolve the problem.

Really appreciate your help. Thank you again!


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(deleted) Sat 14-Mar-15 15:31:28
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In reply to a post by adminkatana:
Erm, plugged into the Test socket the speed has now increased to 13Mbps!


That's rather better - and it will probably feel better when using computers too.

Plugging back into the Master Socket with Cordless phone/ Sky box (everything in house) unplugged it goes back down to 4Mbps...


If that happens, the usual suspect would be the ring wire (on connection number 3) that could be injecting extra noise. Pulling this out would probably help, or using a proper VDSL faceplate filter instead - which would keep the ring wire connection entirely separate from the VDSL socket and signal.

You can buy the VDSL2 faceplate, and install it yourself - it fits between the existing faceplate and the existing backplate, giving you an extra socket to plus the modem into.

Even though BT will have sent Openreach out next week will they charge us as it's an internal wiring issue??


The ordinary answer would be, yes, an appointment to fix something on the internal side would get charged.

However, you are caught in an interesting position here... BT Retail chose to sell you a self-install product, and it hasn't installed well enough. It is BT that chose to go with a cheap version of the installation, and in your case it hasn't paid off.

When the engineer comes, he will (almost certainly) only do what the engineer would have done for other types of installation - which is to test the line, put a VDSL faceplate on, and test again. It is what BT Retail would have asked Openreach to do if you had ordered Infinity 2 - but you were never given that option.

If you could have ordered a couple of years ago, you would certainly have had an engineer attend, and perform these steps, as self-install was not an option.

Morally, this ought to go down as a repair after a failed installation, but do Openreach really see it that way? Would they still charge you for that? I'm not entirely sure - and you probably have grounds to try to argue your case if they do.

Whats the next step?

Choose between
- cancel appointment, and fix it yourself
- leave Openreach to attend, and gamble as to whether they will charge you

It is entirely possible that there are other issues with the line, that could be fixed by the engineer's attendance. However, with the HH5, you don't really have access to the full set of line stats to be able to tell if that is a possibility.

Note: Don't do too many more unplugging & plugging-in of the modem in one day, as you don't want to trigger DLM. If you do want to make more attempts to try things out, the best practice is to first power down the modem while it is still plugged into the phone socket, and to then wait at least 30 mins before plugging the line back in and powering back up.
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(deleted) Sat 14-Mar-15 15:46:34
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Thank you,

I will have a think about the engineer coming, the Faceplate doesn't actually have any orange/ white wires plugged into connection number 3!?

This confuses things further.
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(deleted) Sat 14-Mar-15 15:52:22
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In which case, the most likely case remaining is that the VDSL2 signal bounces down to the extensions (through the two wires that are connected) and gets reflected back - interfering with the signal then arriving at the modem. This reflection is a form of noise too.

The VDSL faceplate should stop that too.
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(deleted) Sat 14-Mar-15 16:06:04
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I think I will keep the engineer appointment, hopefully they will test and install a VDSL faceplate and resolve the problem.

Should I be honest and leave the HH5 plugged into the Test socket? Or switch it back to the Master socket before they arrive?

At least it sounds like a simple fix smile
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(staff) Sat 14-Mar-15 17:02:38
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The ISP should have got you to test with the test socket so if ypu get a bill for visit you could fight it because of that

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(deleted) Sat 14-Mar-15 17:19:46
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Good point.

Thank you again to everyone for their input/ help. You've been great help!
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The ADSL checker now states the following:

FTTC Range A (Clean) 77.6 57.9 20 18.9 -- Available
FTTC Range B (Impacted) 70 41.3 20 12.2 -- Available


I have placed my order and am due to be upgraded on the 9th of April, currently getting about 14mbit on ADSL2+ so this should be a tidy speed increase.
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