I'm sure Kitz forum has plenty of more detailed examples for those who obsess over such things and monitor every minute detail of their connection.

There is genuinely nothing to see. It was interleaved pre-upgrade, and went to using G.inp after with far less interleave per description.

I only checked mine because I read the AAISP service status message and from there looked at my BQM and noted the latency increase. I'm lame; I neither check my BQM or speed test with any regularity.

Edited by deleted (Sat 28-Mar-15 15:00:34)

In reply to a post by mlmclaren:

I'm aware of the issues you have using the HG612 with the Draytek 2760, I too would be a bit ......

I never had any issues using the Draytek with the HG612 as I never used them in combination. The only time I used the HG612 was for a few hours when Fibre was first installed when I used it in combination with an Apple Airport Extreme which will accept PPoE. It's not a combination I would willingly use again as the Airport's firewall is very rudimentary being limited to NAT.

Once I'd got the Zyxel set up I used that as it has a built in VDSL modem. It worked fine but I didn't like the GUI, so I then tried the Draytek which also has a built in VDSL modem. That's been working fine albeit without the facilities of the Zyxel: primarily lack of a VPN endpoint, but I've now worked round that.

I'll try the Zyxel again temporarily as I think that had an option for G.INP so it should be possible to check whether it's enabled.

Give it a few more days in case the cabinet is in the last of the batch - things happen slowly round here - and if the Zyxel doesn't tell me anything, I'll unlock the HG612.

I was curious to see the state of a line that was stuck in interleaved following a g.inp activation.

you are still using the hg612 and with latest firmware?

Mine has a tiny amount of interleaving:-

xdslcmd: ADSL driver and PHY status
Status: Showtime
Retrain Reason: 0
Last initialization procedure status: 0
Max: Upstream rate = 16856 Kbps, Downstream rate = 59180 Kbps
Bearer: 0, Upstream rate = 16976 Kbps, Downstream rate = 60000 Kbps
Bearer: 1, Upstream rate = 0 Kbps, Downstream rate = 0 Kbps
Link Power State: L0
Mode: VDSL2 Annex B
VDSL2 Profile: Profile 17a
TPS-TC: PTM Mode(0x0)
Trellis: U:ON /D:ON
Line Status: No Defect
Training Status: Showtime
Down Up
SNR (dB): 6.0 5.8
Attn(dB): 19.5 0.0
Pwr(dBm): 13.6 7.5
VDSL2 framing
Bearer 0
MSGc: -6 -6
B: 178 227
M: 1 1
T: 0 0
R: 10 14
S: 0.0950 0.4272
L: 15922 4532
D: 16 4
I: 189 242
N: 189 242
Q: 16 4
V: 2 0
RxQueue: 33 27
TxQueue: 11 9
G.INP Framing: 18 18
G.INP lookback: 11 9
RRC bits: 24 24
Bearer 1
MSGc: 122 58
B: 0 0
M: 2 2
T: 2 2
R: 16 16
S: 8.0000 16.0000
L: 32 16
D: 1 1
I: 32 32
N: 32 32
Q: 0 0
V: 0 0
RxQueue: 0 0
TxQueue: 0 0
G.INP Framing: 0 0
G.INP lookback: 0 0
RRC bits: 0 0
Counters
Bearer 0
OHF: 0 0
OHFErr: 0 0
RS: 2652111264 473350
RSCorr: 1863124 1845
RSUnCorr: 0 0
Bearer 1
OHF: 16680964 1017690
OHFErr: 0 0
RS: 133447221 2560811
RSCorr: 0 10
RSUnCorr: 0 0

Retransmit Counters
rtx_tx: 1713 165
rtx_c: 1338 159
rtx_uc: 0 0

G.INP Counters
LEFTRS: 11 14
minEFTR: 60009 16968
errFreeBits: 245163301 71566047

Bearer 0
HEC: 0 0
OCD: 0 0
LCD: 0 0
Total Cells: 850853973 0
Data Cells: 87967 0
Drop Cells: 0
Bit Errors: 0 0

Bearer 1
HEC: 0 0
OCD: 0 0
LCD: 0 0
Total Cells: 0 0
Data Cells: 0 0
Drop Cells: 0
Bit Errors: 0 0

ES: 0 0
SES: 0 0
UAS: 23 23
AS: 267941

Bearer 0
INP: 48.00 44.00
INPRein: 0.00 0.00
delay: 0 0
PER: 0.00 0.00
OR: 0.01 0.01
AgR: 60083.56 17012.81

Bearer 1
INP: 2.00 4.00
INPRein: 2.00 4.00
delay: 0 0
PER: 16.06 16.06
OR: 63.75 31.87
AgR: 63.75 31.87

Bitswap: 194534/194534 6105/6129

It was quite heavily interleaved before, with me waiting for it to revert to Fast Path.

It would be nice to know how all of this will work...

I've read friendly BT peeps on the Kitz forum saying that an ECI modem will need a firmware update to enable G.INP and once the line has been changed a non updated ECI modem won't work without a DLM reset.

If you think otherwise where are you getting your info from?

Is there a way I can tell if my line now has G.INP with my ECI modem attached, I think I had interleave added on 17th of this month and when it has happened once before it rectified itself two days later...

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There isn't any real way to tell other than having an unlocked G.inp compatible modem such as the Huawei hg612 3B with the latest firmware SP08 although SP06 works as well, i know because that's the firmware i flashed the modem with ,
But if you ever wanted/needed to use the ECI modem again you would as it stands today have to get DLM reset ,I Wonder if the same will be required when the ECI cabs become G.inp enabled, or will they update the eci modem without a DLM reset, ?
I can see that BT are going to have to sort something out with this, as those who where supplied the eci modem which has been rendered defunct by the G.inp rollout , they i would imagine will at some point be offering a dlm reset remotely at the request of the ISP as without this they can claim that their service is broken

In reply to a post by tommy45:

There isn't any real way to tell other than having an unlocked G.inp compatible modem such as the Huawei hg612 3B with the latest firmware SP08 although SP06 works as well, i know because that's the firmware i flashed the modem with ,
But if you ever wanted/needed to use the ECI modem again you would as it stands today have to get DLM reset ,I Wonder if the same will be required when the ECI cabs become G.inp enabled, or will they update the eci modem without a DLM reset, ?
I can see that BT are going to have to sort something out with this, as those who where supplied the eci modem which has been rendered defunct by the G.inp rollout , they i would imagine will at some point be offering a dlm reset remotely at the request of the ISP as without this they can claim that their service is broken

No. This happens when an ECI modem running outdated firmware is put onto a line that is already running G.inp.

G.inp does not activate on lines that have devices that aren't compatible. Before lines are pushed onto a G.inp profile a check is done. If a line previously had a compatible device on it so is on a G.inp DLM profile then there will be issues, but only under that circumstance.

The big issue at the moment is that it looks as though Openreach have changed the DLM thresholds however if lines can't take G.inp as the CPE isn't compatible they are being pushed onto an interleaved profile.

Were every ECI modem on Huawei DSLAMs unable to disconnect or problematic I would imagine there'd be a pretty big amount of complaints.

It's not great but it's not quite doomsday for all ECI modems. Very few people have more than one modem and a firmware push will fix the unnecessary interleave issues for most.

It does look like Openreach will be having to do some truck rolls though to replace modems that aren't responding to the TR-069 remote update.

So those of us using our "own " modems when G.INP was enabled now find that the supplied ECI modem (sitting on the shelf as the "official spare" ) is of no use as a backup !