Does the router need to be G.INP compatible? My HG612 seems to be G.INP enabled now but I prefer using my old 7800N over the 8800NL.

I know Billion routers have PhyR, does this need to be enabled? Is PhyR, vectoring and G.INP the same thing?

We could do with seeing the full stats, for the experts to assess the interleaving. As in

# xdslcmd info --show
xdslcmd: ADSL driver and PHY status
Status: Showtime
Retrain Reason: 0
Last initialization procedure status: 0
Max: Upstream rate = 16882 Kbps, Downstream rate = 58604 Kbps
Bearer: 0, Upstream rate = 16961 Kbps, Downstream rate = 60000 Kbps
Bearer: 1, Upstream rate = 0 Kbps, Downstream rate = 0 Kbps
Link Power State: L0
Mode: VDSL2 Annex B
VDSL2 Profile: Profile 17a
TPS-TC: PTM Mode(0x0)
Trellis: U:ON /D:ON
Line Status: No Defect
Training Status: Showtime
Down Up
SNR (dB): 5.8 5.8
Attn(dB): 19.6 0.0
Pwr(dBm): 13.6 7.5
VDSL2 framing
Bearer 0
MSGc: -6 -6
B: 178 227
M: 1 1
T: 0 0
R: 10 14
S: 0.0950 0.4276
L: 15922 4528
D: 16 4
I: 189 242
N: 189 242
Q: 16 4
V: 2 0
RxQueue: 33 27
TxQueue: 11 9
G.INP Framing: 18 18
G.INP lookback: 11 9
RRC bits: 24 24
Bearer 1
MSGc: 122 58
B: 0 0
M: 2 2
T: 2 2
R: 16 16
S: 8.0000 16.0000
L: 32 16
D: 1 1
I: 32 32
N: 32 32
Q: 0 0
V: 0 0
RxQueue: 0 0
TxQueue: 0 0
G.INP Framing: 0 0
G.INP lookback: 0 0
RRC bits: 0 0
Counters
Bearer 0
OHF: 0 0
OHFErr: 0 0
RS: 505927104 1144245
RSCorr: 6084 102
RSUnCorr: 0 0
Bearer 1
OHF: 750754 753697
OHFErr: 0 0
RS: 6005540 3014788
RSCorr: 0 3
RSUnCorr: 0 0

Retransmit Counters
rtx_tx: 3332 20
rtx_c: 57 252
rtx_uc: 0 0

G.INP Counters
LEFTRS: 0 31
minEFTR: 60009 16953
errFreeBits: 11034003 117174572

Bearer 0
HEC: 0 0
OCD: 0 0
LCD: 0 0
Total Cells: 1391368217 0
Data Cells: 2191833 0
Drop Cells: 0
Bit Errors: 0 0

Bearer 1
HEC: 0 0
OCD: 0 0
LCD: 0 0
Total Cells: 0 0
Data Cells: 0 0
Drop Cells: 0
Bit Errors: 0 0

ES: 0 0
SES: 0 0
UAS: 52 52
AS: 12059

Bearer 0
INP: 48.00 44.00
INPRein: 0.00 0.00
delay: 0 0
PER: 0.00 0.00
OR: 0.01 0.01
AgR: 60083.56 16997.80

Bearer 1
INP: 2.00 4.00
INPRein: 2.00 4.00
delay: 0 0
PER: 16.06 16.06
OR: 63.75 31.87
AgR: 63.75 31.87

Bitswap: 9233/9233 252/252

Mine has a small amount, but before it had very high interleaving levels.

When I was affected my Interleaving levels went very high and then when I flashed more recent firmware they dropped to low levels.

Actually my Interleaving & INP levels where very high but didn't actually match the levels at which they where showing.

xdslcmd info --stats
xdslcmd: ADSL driver and PHY status
Status: Showtime
Retrain Reason: 0
Last initialization procedure status: 0
Max: Upstream rate = 47890 Kbps, Downstream rate = 92308 Kbps
Bearer: 0, Upstream rate = 20000 Kbps, Downstream rate = 79999 Kbps
Bearer: 1, Upstream rate = 0 Kbps, Downstream rate = 0 Kbps
Link Power State: L0
Mode: VDSL2 Annex B
VDSL2 Profile: Profile 17a
TPS-TC: PTM Mode(0x0)
Trellis: U:ON /D:ON
Line Status: No Defect
Training Status: Showtime
Down Up
SNR (dB): 9.2 24.6
Attn(dB): 10.6 0.0
Pwr(dBm): 12.4 7.8
VDSL2 framing
Bearer 0
MSGc: -6 -6
B: 130 97
M: 1 1
T: 0 0
R: 8 8
S: 0.0518 0.1554
L: 21468 5457
D: 16 8
I: 139 106
N: 139 106
Q: 16 8
V: 14 2
RxQueue: 57 39
TxQueue: 19 13
G.INP Framing: 18 18
G.INP lookback: 19 13
RRC bits: 24 24
Bearer 1
MSGc: 186 58
B: 0 0
M: 2 2
T: 2 2
R: 16 16
S: 5.3333 16.0000
L: 48 16
D: 3 1
I: 32 32
N: 32 32
Q: 0 0
V: 0 0
RxQueue: 0 0
TxQueue: 0 0
G.INP Framing: 0 0
G.INP lookback: 0 0
RRC bits: 0 0
Counters
Bearer 0
OHF: 0 0
OHFErr: 0 0
RS: 2014920640 2108717
RSCorr: 7963 815
RSUnCorr: 0 0
Bearer 1
OHF: 15535252 916004
OHFErr: 0 0
RS: 186422288 2254731
RSCorr: 1 7
RSUnCorr: 0 0

Retransmit Counters
rtx_tx: 100346 107
rtx_c: 734 298
rtx_uc: 0 0

G.INP Counters
LEFTRS: 5 14
minEFTR: 79999 19997
errFreeBits: 304471920 102145351

Bearer 0
HEC: 0 0
OCD: 0 0
LCD: 0 0
Total Cells: 4029929309 0
Data Cells: 862077685 0
Drop Cells: 0
Bit Errors: 0 0

Bearer 1
HEC: 0 0
OCD: 0 0
LCD: 0 0
Total Cells: 0 0
Data Cells: 0 0
Drop Cells: 0
Bit Errors: 0 0

ES: 0 0
SES: 0 0
UAS: 318 318
AS: 249538

Bearer 0
INP: 46.00 47.00
INPRein: 0.00 0.00
delay: 0 0
PER: 0.00 0.00
OR: 0.01 0.01
AgR: 80614.82 20102.08

Bearer 1
INP: 4.00 4.00
INPRein: 4.00 4.00
delay: 3 0
PER: 16.06 16.06
OR: 95.62 31.87
AgR: 95.62 31.87

Bitswap: 159976/159976 369/369

Total time = 1 days 21 hours 24 min 16 sec
FEC: 7963 815
CRC: 0 0
ES: 0 0
SES: 0 0
UAS: 318 318
LOS: 0 0
LOF: 0 0
LOM: 0 0
Latest 15 minutes time = 9 min 16 sec
FEC: 0 0
CRC: 0 0
ES: 0 0
SES: 0 0
UAS: 0 0
LOS: 0 0
LOF: 0 0
LOM: 0 0
Previous 15 minutes time = 15 min 0 sec
FEC: 1 0
CRC: 0 0
ES: 0 0
SES: 0 0
UAS: 0 0
LOS: 0 0
LOF: 0 0
LOM: 0 0
Latest 1 day time = 21 hours 24 min 16 sec
FEC: 2337 249
CRC: 0 0
ES: 0 0
SES: 0 0
UAS: 0 0
LOS: 0 0
LOF: 0 0
LOM: 0 0
Previous 1 day time = 24 hours 0 sec
FEC: 3601 247
CRC: 0 0
ES: 0 0
SES: 0 0
UAS: 0 0
LOS: 0 0
LOF: 0 0
LOM: 0 0
Since Link time = 2 days 21 hours 18 min 57 sec
FEC: 7963 815
CRC: 0 0
ES: 0 0
SES: 0 0
UAS: 0 0
LOS: 0 0
LOF: 0 0
LOM: 0 0
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I already had the latest one running - the same as I just flashed into the new HG612. G.INP was not implemented - it was genuine heavy interleaving. I know what caused it . Somewhere a couple of weeks back I think I have a stats post showing it.

This all blew up when the G.INP went on. AIUI they got a connection from me straight afterwards, then it dropped and never came back.

Hmmm OK!

Full sync in both directions, but a very odd 3ms delay on Bearer 1 downstream. Interleaving similar to mine but a different pattern for the matrix - a different type of setting altogether, though both are small.

Have to wait for the experts.

What is wrong with the upload speed? Is download OK? I can't test mine yet because of the Current line speed.

My Hg612 went from 16ms to 32ms on the 21St of this month on an older unlocked FW.

I want to thank you guys for talking about this as I then proceed to update my FW to the latest and now my ping's are back to 16ms

Thanks fellas.

Thank you for your feedback, It is key to proving what the issue is and will contribute towards a wider fix for everybody

Cheers mlmclaren

My line stat's before G.inp 16ms ping @ 59mb

Then I had the line G.inp enabled older FW stat's 32ms ping @ 49mb

Now with G.inp enabled and the latest unlocked FW my stats are 16ms ping @ 66mb

Edited by TiMeTraVeLeR (Tue 31-Mar-15 09:54:01)