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Standard User deleted
(deleted) Fri 10-Apr-15 13:43:16
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Re: Openreach & BT Retail..


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Just reeks of preferential activity to me.
Not at all. Please provide details of all ISPs using BTW for connectivity that were unable to offer FTTC. To date you have failed to provide a single example. Without such detail your post regrettably remains meaningless.
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(deleted) Fri 10-Apr-15 13:45:33
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Re: Openreach & BT Retail..


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Putting the local public house's number and postcode into the ZEN site, FTTC is available. When I do the same with the TalkTalk site then it reports it's not available.

Which would, of course, fit with the diagnosis that ISPs which depend on TalkTalk's alone are not going to have FTTC available whilst those that make use of BTW backhaul, either exclusively or as a supplement, should be able to offer service.

I think the anonymous ISP ought to be named as it seems more likely it's a shortcoming in their systems.
Standard User RobertoS
(elder) Fri 10-Apr-15 13:48:10
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Re: Openreach & BT Retail..


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But nearly all ISPs obtain their (Openreach) service through BT Wholesale. So for the likes of the ones I listed, other than Zen who sometimes don't use BTW, if orders are being declined it has to be BTW not Openreach.

Is it possible the phone numbers in question are currently LLU? That can complicate a move to non-Sky/TalkTalk FTTC.

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Standard User deleted
(deleted) Fri 10-Apr-15 14:03:12
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It will not have been a mystery launch. All ISPs are told at the same time because of equivalence rules. Whether they choose to promote it or not is up to them and will, of course, depend on whether they will be prepared to offer such a service at that location.
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(deleted) Fri 10-Apr-15 14:19:43
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for the avoidance of doubt all sevice provdiers are notified at the same time that cab is enabled -- it then a commercial decision for each service provdier to determine whether to offer fibre services to their customer
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(deleted) Fri 10-Apr-15 14:23:21
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actuually partially funded by the Taxpayer and partially funded by BT Group as part of match funding to be precise
Administrator MrSaffron
(staff) Fri 10-Apr-15 14:35:56
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Live cabs and some postcodes are out of range


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Cabinets 1,2, 3 and 5 on STNETHR now have FTTC available.

Cab 5 believe this is a new cab (guess for some EO areas

New cabs do confuse some providers who have databases that run off of copies of BT Wholesale data and are sometimes a few days or a week out of date.

Edited by MrSaffron (Fri 10-Apr-15 14:39:59)

The author of the above post is a thinkbroadband staff member. It may not constitute an official statement on behalf of thinkbroadband.
Standard User deleted
(deleted) Fri 10-Apr-15 15:15:59
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Fair comments, but still by Openreach I presume, to be equal access to all.

I will hope that we get connected okay on Friday, one hopes!

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Standard User deleted
(deleted) Fri 10-Apr-15 16:50:44
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It doesn't matter whether it's taxpayer funded or not. The equivalence principle applies to all Openreach products. They have to provide the same service to using the same interfaces to all.

Of course the EU also dictate that BDUK projects have to be provided on a wholesale basis under state assistance rules, but that's moot as it's already an OR duty.
Standard User godsell4
(regular) Fri 10-Apr-15 17:46:05
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Re: Openreach & BT Retail..


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In reply to a post by RobertoS:
... so where does your info come from please?


I have an interest in the Wiltshire area, so I happen to know this link, and click on Netheravon.

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