Im 3.5km line length from the exchange and when i was on ADSL it was 2Mbit faster than ADSL2+, for long lines i wouldn't even bother with ADSL2+

Actually, ADSL2 sometimes gives better behaviour on long lines compared with either ADSL2+ or ADSL.

ADSL2 brings better modulation and line coding, so can make more efficient use of the same frequencies available to ADSL. But without the extra frequencies opened up by ADSL2+.

Weird, but sometimes true...

cant see that one coming any time soor if ever