In reply to a post by delone:

Hi Paul.

Do you know when they will start on phase 15a?

Cheers

Del

I wouldn't know.
I am assuming your referring to BDUK Scot Government phase 15a?
I just checked a cabinet that seems to be down for phase 15b and it already has fibre.

So they are either working on phase 15b or they are ahead for that cabinet.

Paul

At 1km 20 to 24 Mbps still possible so exact distance will be important

The phases are announcement timetables not firm delivery phases and plans can change

Well I just did a check on all addresses on that exchange and have the following:

BT Wholesale Exchange Information.

Exchange Name: Insch
Exchange Code: NSINS

• Cabinet: EO
  
  • FTTP: 0
  • FTTC: 0
  • ADSLx: 28
  • None: 2
  
  
• Cabinet: 1
  
  • FTTP: 0
  • FTTC: 102
  • ADSLx: 32
  • None: 0
  
  
• Cabinet: 2
  
  • FTTP: 0
  • FTTC: 189
  • ADSLx: 69
  • None: 0
  
  
• Cabinet: 3
  
  • FTTP: 0
  • FTTC: 0
  • ADSLx: 117
  • None: 0
  
  
• Cabinet: 4
  
  • FTTP: 0
  • FTTC: 166
  • ADSLx: 2
  • None: 0
  
  
• Cabinet: 5
  
  • FTTP: 0
  • FTTC: 767
  • ADSLx: 34
  • None: 0
  
  
• Cabinet: 6
  
  • FTTP: 0
  • FTTC: 17
  • ADSLx: 270
  • None: 0
  
  

All above information is correct at time of 01:30 05-Jun-2015.

So now I can see that Cabinet 6 is live due to it has some addressed on it i.e. 17 addresses on that cabinet has fibre, so maybe its work in progress.

Paul

In reply to a post by MrSaffron:

At 1km 20 to 24 Mbps still possible so exact distance will be important

Even with my largest optimism-hat on, I am struggling to believe that I would be anywhere near that close. I haven't found the cabinet yet, so I can't say for sure, but given that there are almost 300 addresses served by cabinet 6, and that we live just over 3 km from the edge of the town (Insch), with maybe 20 houses on the way out here, I would say it is pretty unlikely.

Short of walking/driving around the neighbourhood looking suspicious, is there any way to find out where cabinet 6 is?

And what might happen with the 20 or so (maybe 30) houses out here, who are further than 1 km from the cabinet?

Edit: Thanks again to everyone for the help.

Edited by deleted (Fri 05-Jun-15 09:41:45)

In reply to a post by Tolq:

In reply to a post by MrSaffron:

At 1km 20 to 24 Mbps still possible so exact distance will be important

Even with my largest optimism-hat on, I am struggling to believe that I would be anywhere near that close. I haven't found the cabinet yet, so I can't say for sure, but given that there are almost 300 addresses served by cabinet 6, and that we live just over 3 km from the edge of the town (Insch), with maybe 20 houses on the way out here, I would say it is pretty unlikely.

Short of walking/driving around the neighbourhood looking suspicious, is there any way to find out where cabinet 6 is?

And what might happen with the 20 or so (maybe 30) houses out here, who are further than 1 km from the cabinet?

Edit: Thanks again to everyone for the help.

Well going by the speed that you said you had when it was an EO Line which was about 4 to 5Mbps, while doing some tests yesterday for that postcode I noticed the speeds of 1Mbps while on cabinet 6 so from that I am assuming that your cabinet is located away from the exchange and away from your location resulting in a longer distance of copper.

Let me see if I can locate where the cabinet is.

But cabinet 6 has been fibred up, just not many people on it, I counted about 17 homes.

Paul

Word of caution, usually when a fibre cab goes live it is available to all apart from those where line lengths are too long. So RARE to see it available for such a small number, some more checks need to be done on the data.

In reply to a post by MrSaffron:

Word of caution, usually when a fibre cab goes live it is available to all apart from those where line lengths are too long. So RARE to see it available for such a small number, some more checks need to be done on the data.

This is true.

Low end fibre speed on cabinet 6:

FTTC Range A: 25 -> 34.7 (downstream line rate), 5.7 -> 7.4 (upstream line rate)
FTTC Range B: 14 -> 27.3 (downstream line rate), 3.3 -> 7.1 (upstream line rate)

ADSLx: Up to 7.5 (downstream line rate), -- (upstream line rate), 6.5 to 8.0 (downstream range)

and the high end fibre speed on cabinet 6:

FTTC Range A: 31.5 -> 40 (downstream line rate), 5.8 -> 8 (upstream line rate)
FTTC Range B: 19.3 -> 35 (downstream line rate), 4 -> 8 (upstream line rate)

ADSLx: Up to 7.5 (downstream line rate), -- (upstream line rate), 6.5 to 8.0 (downstream range)

Now the ADSLx speeds for the OP postcode:

[AB52 6LS]
ADSLx: Up to 1.0 (downstream line rate), -- (upstream line rate), 0.8 to 2.5 (downstream range)

Going by that speed I cannot see them ever getting FTTC on that cabinet, well not at the moment.

Also remember the OP said that they use to get 4 to 5 Mbps when it was an EO Line and now gets this, so their line has got longer.

Paul

My presumption based on postcodes theoretically served by cab 6 is that it will be very close to the exchange. Not had an EO where this has been more than 100-200m wrong yet.

In reply to a post by PaulKirby:

Going by that speed I cannot see them ever getting FTTC on that cabinet, well not at the moment.

Also remember the OP said that they use to get 4 to 5 Mbps when it was an EO Line and now gets this, so their line has got longer.

Thats what I thought. Might I get moved to a different (new) cabinet at some point then, or is that it for us out here?

Just to clarify re: speeds before and now - I was referring to the sync speeds reported by my ADSL router. They have stayed pretty much the same, so I don't think the line length got (significantly) longer.

Here are the current readings:

Upstream 448
Downstream 4480
SNR Margin(Upstream) 12.0
SNR Margin(Downstream) 8.7
Line Attenuation(Upstream) 31.5
Line Attenuation(Downstream) 53.0