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Standard User Storm_Force
(regular) Fri 26-Jun-15 22:05:13
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Re: Hatherleigh Cab5 (new PCP and fibre cab)


[re: PaulKirby] [link to this post]
 
Drove past today and was pleased to see two engineers one on the fibre cab and one on the new PCP busy wiring everything up. I stopped and had a chat the fibre cab has been connected to the mains (I could see the RCD light illuminated)

They were in the process of pairing wires from new cab to new fibre cab(forgot exactly the technical term for it) None of the EO lines have been moved across yet he rekon's it will take around 3 weeks work to complete and another week or two to get it commissioned?

So very happy that there is light at the end of the tunnel!
Standard User PaulKirby
(experienced) Fri 26-Jun-15 23:16:34
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Re: Hatherleigh Cab5 (new PCP and fibre cab)


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In reply to a post by Storm_Force:
Drove past today and was pleased to see two engineers one on the fibre cab and one on the new PCP busy wiring everything up. I stopped and had a chat the fibre cab has been connected to the mains (I could see the RCD light illuminated)

They were in the process of pairing wires from new cab to new fibre cab(forgot exactly the technical term for it) None of the EO lines have been moved across yet he rekon's it will take around 3 weeks work to complete and another week or two to get it commissioned?
So was it where we thought it was?

In reply to a post by Storm_Force:
So very happy that there is light at the end of the tunnel!
Nice, so hopefully soon you will be able to say there is light at the end of the cable LOL.

We have also had some rather nice news as well, we have for the last few days had a couple of engineers with their large cabling vans down our road installing our fibre and now just waiting for a joiner engineer now, so hopefully we will both get fibre very soon smile

Paul.
Standard User deleted
(deleted) Sat 27-Jun-15 19:18:53
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Re: Hatherleigh Cab5 (EO lines) info required


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That doesn't mean a thing, BTOR have put addresses onto a cabinet that is miles away and then fibred up the cabinet and all the homes that are miles away don't get offered fibre, which kind of sucks.


Really? How does that work then?

I can easily see how open reach can swap the E-side so that the previously EO line is presented to a cabinet miles away, but then how do they get the D side to get back to the residence?

They would have to run miles of new cabling/ducting ......

I'd of thought they would move all of the EO Lines onto a new cab

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Standard User PaulKirby
(experienced) Sat 27-Jun-15 19:51:54
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Re: Hatherleigh Cab5 (EO lines) info required


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In reply to a post by eunos_rsh:
That doesn't mean a thing, BTOR have put addresses onto a cabinet that is miles away and then fibred up the cabinet and all the homes that are miles away don't get offered fibre, which kind of sucks.


Really? How does that work then?

I can easily see how open reach can swap the E-side so that the previously EO line is presented to a cabinet miles away, but then how do they get the D side to get back to the residence?

They would have to run miles of new cabling/ducting ......

I'd of thought they would move all of the EO Lines onto a new cab
That's what I am referring to, there was loads of EO Lines that was moved over to a new cabinet, sadly some of these cabinets were placed just out side the exchange, and when as an EO Line they got reasonable speeds and was also about the same when on the new PCP Cabinet, now when the Fibre cabinet got installed most addresses was too far away from that fibre cabinet to get the minimum speed to be offered fibre.

And why would they have to run loads of ducting, hardly any would be needed if the cabinets are placed right outside the exchange, basically they was being cheap I think (granted it was done probably faster), I am mostly seeing this happen on the BDUK upgrades.

Basically they place the new cabinet very close to where the copper lines go into the exchange to minimize the amount of fibre and in some occasions it has been on their land.

Also think of it like this...
Say I am about just over 2miles from my exchange, luckily my PCP cabinet is 500m cable route from me and I get approx. 5Mbit.

Now I could of been an EO Line still at 2miles from the exchange and my new cabinet could of been placed right outside my exchange (2miles away from me) and I would still get around 5Mbit, this probably wouldn't change.

Now this all changes if they upgraded my cabinet to a FTTC, resulting it it being built 2miles away.

The difference would be:
  1. Fibre Cabinet approx. 500m away.
  2. Fibre Cabinet approx. 2miles away.
Now if about 2 miles away I probably might be on the borders of being offered or refused FTTC due to it being too far away, whereas if it was 500m away I would probably of got a reasonable speed.

Paul
Standard User Storm_Force
(regular) Sat 27-Jun-15 21:30:50
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Re: Hatherleigh Cab5 (new PCP and fibre cab)


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Yes Paul the google map is correct location, the new cabs are just outside the exchange.

I currently connect at 7936 kps sometimes the full 8128 kps (up to 8mb package) seeing my line length isn't going to change any guess at what fibre speed I may get?

Paul, Where about are you to? are you getting fttc or fttp?
Administrator MrSaffron
(staff) Sat 27-Jun-15 21:46:05
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Re: Hatherleigh Cab5 (new PCP and fibre cab)


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So how far in metres are you from the exchange?

I could get on a good day full 8 Meg sync at 3 km from the exchange, which would be almost zero on VDSL2

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Standard User deleted
(deleted) Sat 27-Jun-15 21:52:54
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Re: Hatherleigh Cab5 (EO lines) info required


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I'm part of a cluster of 75 properties, all EO, 2km or so from our local exchange, Vauxhall in Kennington, London. Not commercially viable for BT to carry out the necessary network rearrangement at this time and even so, if they were to take the easy approach and stick cabs outside the exchange we would see little benefit. As you know, no BDUK funding is currently available for us in London.

Since lack of fast broadband was starting to affect property prices and more importantly for some, rental income, it was decided that we couldn't wait for the government to catch up and after looking at various alternatives such as Hyperoptic it was agreed that we would go with BT and gap fund the project. The important point was that we insisted that the FTTC cab be placed close to our properties and not outside the exchange and this BT are doing by installing an all-in-one immediately outside the entrance to the development. This should hopefully mean that all properties can expect to see speeds in the range of 65-80 Mbps downstream with the majority towards the top of the range.
Standard User Storm_Force
(regular) Sat 27-Jun-15 22:04:43
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Re: Hatherleigh Cab5 (new PCP and fibre cab)


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Using google maps its 400m straight line not sure of the route of the cabling as most of it is underground. What the line stats help?

Thanks
Standard User deleted
(deleted) Sat 27-Jun-15 22:08:11
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Re: Hatherleigh Cab5 (EO lines) info required


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I was referring to routing EO Lines to existing older cabs (not new cabs stood specific specifically for EO Line purposes)....This won't happen because the D sides of the old cabs go nowhere near the DP points of the previously EO properties and hence require cables and ducting etc

In terms of New cabs erected for resolving EO issues - yes I agree with what your saying although it's pretty rare for them not to be stood pretty close to the exchange.
Administrator MrSaffron
(staff) Sat 27-Jun-15 22:11:01
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Re: Hatherleigh Cab5 (new PCP and fibre cab)


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ADSL line stats no particularly

So if 600m then good lines do 50 Meg, if 900 m good lines do 35 Meg

Once the EO work and the cabinet goes live you will get the estimates showing up giving you a range of speeds

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