It wasn't your post Alex, I was referring to, but the OP. Sorry if you got the wrong impression. I was just agreeing with you that the whole thread is pointless and a waste of space.

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So you're saying the graph published by Ofcom is the same as the graph in the OP with the axis swapped?

Yes, I might have misunderstood you. Cheers.

with the axis swapped?

I think vimto-girl will have to answer that one....but that what it looks like to me; although she did process the raw data herself.

Access to the raw Ofcom/SK data would be very useful to verify whether the money spent is worthwhile or just an exercise in ensuring Ofcom has some data to publish (which as its Ofcom is difficult to question), e.g. what speed are the lines they are testing and where they are so it can be determined how much information is real data rather than modelled

The location is very important when doing drop due to peak speeds, e.g. are the areas where people moan about virgin media speeds in the list etc

they in the ofcom tests yes.

VM refused to add me as a tester, I emailed ofcom to ask if they blocking VM bad areas, then got a reply saying its upto VM with what they do on their own tests but they were happy to have me as a ofcom tester.

Samknows do testing separately for VM and ofcom (and possibly other isp's).

In reply to a post by ian007jen:

with the axis swapped?

I think vimto-girl will have to answer that one....but that what it looks like to me; although she did process the raw data herself.

Noticeable that the results here are restricted to FTTC 40 Mbps products only, so fail to show the abject performance of two of the VM product lines.

On the plus side, these results include TT performance, which isn't in the Ofcom chart.

And better, partly as a result of not bothering to put zero in the chart, this chart highlights the differences above 90% - which is where behaviour alters the most.

I'm not exactly a zero-axis nazi ... but I do prefer it if the axis gets a zig-zag wiggle to help make it clear.

The SamKnows reporting dashboard fails to plot zero, by default - and a first glance at a graph of download speeds makes it appear as though mayhem is in charge. Until you remember ... and it turns out that the speeds actually differ by less than 0.5Mbps.