So looks like a bug on the beloved TBB then, as it showing 4 ms at peak time this evening, at the very time I get a little packet loss due to congestion.
http://www.thinkbroadband.com/speedtest/button/14372...

Done a few minutes ago during 'Raised evening latency'
http://postimg.org/image/vi2z57n23/

AFAIK, you will not being able to ping something lower than your baseline ping...

The lowest I've ever got the BBC is 9ms, and thats when my BQM also showed 9ms, currently my BQM shows it at around 11ms and my pings to the BBC also show that...

I'm not sure of the bug, but something is causing the incorrect latency readings...

But I suppose your line, amongst other faulty lines (and from what you have said there is many on your cab) and all the good lines in the UK has just broken a record for lowest ping that even those sitting on the cab with a new pair and able to achieve 120/40 (max sync, not actual) are also unable to achieve...

maybe the lowest ping ever achieved on any DSL connection ever.

In reply to a post by StephenTodd:

I've just noticed that Pulse8 like to do FTTC migrations via ADSL.
That seems to leave an extra uncertainty which should not be an issue, but ...???
For example, if your cabinet is full might you lose the FTTC connection during the process?

I know, suck right!

No way would I go from 60/18 to 3/0.8 to then have to wait for a fibre order to complete... my household would just stop... nothing would work at all, no radio, no working from home..

I don't see the point in it... I get a feeling there is a cost saving behind it but couldn't say for sure.

Well, a while ago, you and the world were so sure, that you stated quite categorically that it was a Speedtest.net fault that was showing my low pings.
My line may well have been faulty in the past, but I don't consider it faulty now. It is as good as many others here and better than some I have seen recently. After all, since switching to fibre, I have very little copper as I can see my cab from home.
Also, I have not stated that there are many faulty lines on my cab. You are talking rubbish, as I have no idea of the state of the lines of others on my cab. Yes, I have stated that OR have spent a lot of time at properties here and raking cables from the sump by my cab, but not being the nosy type, I have no idea whet their visits were for. Could be fibre installations for all I know. I only know what the OR engineer tells me is the state of some non BT ISPs, but then he would wouldn't he.

It may be spite Pulse8 week, but there are many many instances mentioned here, where providers prefer to get the line over first before switching fibre, especially where LLU is involved. Look around and you will see it's a quirk of Talktalk migrations, nothing deliberate or incompetent from Pulse8. Looks like it's something to do with an Ofcom 10 day cooling off period. https://pulse8broadband.co.uk/faq I suppose if someone backed out of the line rental in the ten day cooling off period, there would be an expense of fibre to sort. Makes sense to me.
Cost saving ..... A little like Plusnet strangling upload speed. It was their old trick on ADSL, leaving many not realising they could upgrade speed.

Edited by professor973 (Sat 18-Jul-15 23:13:29)

I don't want to knock Pulse8, but if I migrate I want the simplest and most reliable possible migration.
Neither (a) migrating via ADSL nor (b) migrating telephone first and then FTTC later is 'simplest'.

In the case of (b), would both the telephone migration and the later FTTC migration leave the FTTC connected and running, apart from the few minutes of transfer as the higher level PPPoE connection migrated? Also, (b) might not be feasible as part of a move from Pluset in contract without penalty due to telephone price increases. Again, not Pulse8's fault, but still a possible reason not to make the change.

In reply to a post by professor973:

It may be spite Pulse8 week

I wasn't aware of it being a particular spite Pulse8 week.

But now you mention it, OFCOM require all providers, even systemless resellers, to be members of an approved ADR.

Which OFCOM approved ADR do Pulse8 belong to?

So WHY don't you ask them ? - If you had a brain, you could use it and search for the information. I expect you will find it on a decent im-partial site!
http://www.ispreview.co.uk/isp_list/ISP_Detail_Dialu...

Edited by professor973 (Sun 19-Jul-15 00:24:13)

In reply to a post by mlmclaren:

I don't see the point in it... I get a feeling there is a cost saving behind it but couldn't say for sure.

They will offer to try a direct FTTC->FTTC migration but they state their previous attempts have failed.

In reply to a post by Spud2003:

In reply to a post by mlmclaren:

I don't see the point in it... I get a feeling there is a cost saving behind it but couldn't say for sure.

They will offer to try a direct FTTC->FTTC migration but they state their previous attempts have failed.

But why does it fail... it don't for anyone else, any other company would have this sorted very quickly, even if it meant placing the orders for new connections (fibre) instead of migration...