I do think the Fritz!Box drops pings if it receives too many, and this is what you're now seeing. I spent weeks with AVM and Plusnet support with similar looking graphs. Both with and without the HG612 and with a UPS.

Disable F8lure. (Does F8lure also enable an A&A ping? This may take a day or so to be cancelled).

Simon.

In reply to a post by bet_here:

I do think the Fritz!Box drops pings if it receives too many, and this is what you're now seeing. I spent weeks with AVM and Plusnet support with similar looking graphs. Both with and without the HG612 and with a UPS.

Disable F8lure. (Does F8lure also enable an A&A ping? This may take a day or so to be cancelled).

Simon.

Could well be, some devices do rate limit ICMP to prevent them being flooded with ping requests. Although any decent bit of kit I would expect to expose that setting in the firewall config or at least on the command line.

I have done.... but don't overlook the fact that that I set up f8lure to check the packet loss that I was seeing through the Thinkbroadband BQM, which is that some days there is almost no red, other days there are huge blocks of it, if it was down to the router I'm sure the red packet loss "blocks" would be a consistent and daily feature.

The BQM graph was just as "noisy" pre Fritz when I had a HGV2700 on ADSL/ADSL2+, it was worse on Enta than when I moved to Vivaciti for an LLU service from Enta/IPSC, and returned when Vivaciti moved me back to WBC/Enta (BT had suddenly upgraded the exchange to WBC after TalkTalk arrived) - I should have dumped Vivaciti then

It's difficult because if the router is ICMP rate limiting then as to if you see that happening or not depends on what is pinging your IP at a given time, just because you didn't have a test pinging it doesn't mean someone else isn't...

Of course it might not be rate limiting and you really are seeing a lot of packet-loss, difficult to tell.

Some routers Implement rate limiting/anti-ddos settings they don't expose to the user.

In reply to a post by warweezil:

The BQM graph was just as "noisy" pre Fritz

Hi warweezil. Before the Fritz!Box was the red packet loss the same 'shape' - big triangles of packet loss. I've been trying to find some old BQM's from my line, but can only find a thumbnail. There wasn't always the 100% loss and it often looked like yours. I suspended the f8lure ping, and it cleared up around midnight the next day. Re-enabling f8lure resumed the packet loss, and cancelling again cleared up around the say time. May just have been co-incidence though, which is why I'd be interested to see what happens to yours tonight.

I have started f8lure on my line - just after 6pm. Here's my BQM

edit - and stopped f8lure around 8:30pm

My Broadband Ping

Edited by bet_here (Tue 21-Jul-15 02:42:30)

Looks familiar.. mine stopped earlier, now i will have to watch the bqm for the next packet loss spike.

In reply to a post by warweezil:

Looks familiar.. mine stopped earlier, now i will have to watch the bqm for the next packet loss spike.

But you won't be able to tell if it's the Fritz!Box that's dropping the packets or not. See my BQM above - even the small amount of loss between 6 and 7pm was probably the Fritz.

You would probably need to unlock the HG612 and have that respond to the pings.

Simon.

The 612 is unlocked. I only get to play around with this stuff at weekends, the weekdays are too full with work and running around for 2 disabled family members, I usually (not always) get a day to myself at the weekends so maybe this weekend I will do something with it.

The underlying problem is that the BQM graph for my enta connection has too many days when it is really "noisy", BTw Speedtest suggests the throughput is currently ok ( the low speed issues of a few weeks ago seem to have disappeared for now) so what I am seeing would seem to be an issue within Enta - Its ok at the moment.

My gut feeling is that a migration is called for.

Related to this, do you find that these forums take a few seconds to open? for some reason the pages here seem to lag compared to pretty much every other site I visit regularly.

In reply to a post by warweezil:

My gut feeling is that a migration is called for.

Understood. I felt the same way with Plusnet. Really happy with my move to Zen.

I see your BQM has had a few red spikes in the past 24 hours. Are these re-syncs?