splitting of openreach wont affect BT wholesale

I see your "migrating soon" has gone, you keeping plusnet now?

In reply to a post by Chrysalis:

splitting of openreach wont affect BT wholesale

I know, I didn't say it would 😀

In reply to a post by Chrysalis:

I see your "migrating soon" has gone, you keeping plusnet now?

Just having a sig. Clean up and hell nooo... But soon to be moving house so not rushing anywhere yet!

In reply to a post by mlmclaren:

However I have worked along side some of the big communications providers and even been offered jobs by them too, I've fixed issues they could not, I do believe I have more experience in this area than you and if you think I'm being big headed by saying this, I don't care!

Interesting.

maybe!

Not sure if it's mentioned elsewhere in the thread but note that (unless something has changed recently) that you can't migrate from ANOther ISP FTTC to Pulse8 FTTC - You have to move to Pulse 8 ADSL first and then upgrade.

This was enough to put me off and look elsewhere when I jumped ship from Plusnet a couple of weeks ago.

Yes, and thanks ,

I had picked up on that, and although I am going to be (I think) on WLR3 with them next week, if I migrate my FTTC to them then the line would also be moved by them to the TTB connection. Let's face it, it's a commercial necessity for at least two reasons.

I'm not sure I want that, though the new migration system possibly makes it less difficult to move away. (I've only read up the new broadband migration from the Ofcom General Conditions that govern it. The same document covers phone line transfers but I'm suffering from brain overload!).

That would leave me with the choice of staying with Plusnet and a £10pm saving, along with my growing discontent about their senior management policies, or moving to AAISP on Home::1. The 100GB I believe will be more than sufficient for a year or two, and that will no doubt bring a new generation of products from several ISPs. In the last 11 days I've used 13GB.

The day-to-day performance of my FTTC seems fine, but I do have some doubts at times. That would take a while to explain.

My move to P8 line rental had two triggers. First my discovery that my BT + E & W came to £20.71, with caller display being charged without my having been aware of it, (it had always been free so long as you signed up to BT Privacy for 12 months), and basic 1571 also being charged. Total £24.31pm. Calls outside the E & W, quarter Feb-Apr £5.something, and since I placed the move order my May-June invoice came in, calls £3.something.

Second, BT call setup is several pence, plus a few ppm. Pulse8 has no setup charge and 1ppm, one-month terms.

No-brainer .

Plusnet + my existing BT rental etc, therefore come to £43.20pm plus a few quid on calls, some of which I could probably have made within my mobile minutes. I have plenty unused.

Given my certain much cheaper phone line, £14pm, AAISP Home::1 at £40pm comes to a total of £54pm. Pulse8 full LLU is £44pm. So basically my cost difference from as is (until Tuesday) to Pulse8 is nil, and to AAISP £10 on a 6-month term.

I'm very tempted by AAISP. But I could stay with Plusnet and from Tuesday be £10pm better off .

In reply to a post by RobertoS:

Your latency is fine, but you seem to be getting a lot more packet loss than me, on the currently not-so-good Plusnet. Which concerns me, seeing as I'm considering P8.

As a totally different point of interest, didn't you recently mention being on Anytime calls or something? I can't see any call plans on their website - not that I would want one, but!

Like you Bob, I had a rubbish line and the expense of fibre was the only answer to try and clear things up, in my case bring my copper to around 300n and the cab within sight as the crow flies.
Had many problems with trying to find a VDSL modem/router that behaved itself which knocked hell out of the speed I was initially getting. The fact that the OR engineer left an ECI modem at install that did not match my cab I felt did not help matters, which led me to pick up an unlocked version. It's only a few days since I have been ably to drop the second VDSL combo. This now leaves the unlocked modem driving the old Billion 7800N that I finally got to play ball with a modem stuffed up its WAN. As I said, this combination seems to have my old line running at its best. A few dropped packets yes, but no dropouts and a very usable line. We are 400 miles away at our EE served location now, so all I can do is monitor the TBB BQM. You will see I get a little peak time raised maximum latency still, which cannot be caused by my usage, but the old Billion seems to be doing a decent job. A struggle when you have to find a fibre router yourself, but P8 are in the process of sorting their own kit, or at least kit that will be available when the OR modems dry up. Just the router and NAS on at home, which is handy for pulling media up here if I wish now I have decent upload speed. Overall,I am very happy with what I have now compared to what I had, especially that I can keep tie-in free with Pulse8. I think you will, or are already finding the customer service very good. I think your packet loss and raised peak time latency looks the same. Surely we can blame OR somewhere along the line lol
http://www.thinkbroadband.com/ping/share/a848f385056...

Edited by professor973 (Sat 25-Jul-15 09:10:01)

I've been following this thread fairly carefully as I was also thinking of jumping from Plusnet to Pulse8.
I too was put off by the FFTC->ADSL->FTTC path; and the Pulse8 price would end up a bit more for me, so I have pretty much ruled that out at least for now.

I am currently thinking of going back to BT as there are excellent offers going, and I did occasionally find the FON provision useful. (Sport and their terrible cloud service are not an incentive to me.)
I slightly dread the thought of calls to India, but generally it is so rare that a call is needed ... and the huge wait times on Plusnet don't appeal either.

We make fairly few telephone calls, and most of those either in the evening or via 18866, so call costs themselves are not a significant issue to us. The simplicity of knowing there were always sensible prices would be a small benefit of Pulse8.

Similar thoughts to me then... My PN service was technically fine and worked perfectly so I never needed to contact support. Seeing how things are changing there at the moment and the time it takes to get faults fixed should I have an issue however convinced me to preempt things and leave.

I too would go to AAISP like a shot but two children with iPads makes it a very expensive solution - 100GB doesn't cut it! There's hints that they may be about to increase limits so one to watch... I use VOIP for all telephony so their £10/month line rental would be perfect!

The other point that put me off Pulse8 was £2/month for a static IP feels like a bit of a rip off (as a matter of principle) and that closes the gap to other providers.

It's early days for me with Aquiss (the FTTC migration only completed on Tuesday and the phone line moves on Aug 4th) but so far so good and the couple of questions I've had for their support have been answered in a matter of minutes. I've even got dual stack IPv6 to play with as well

Best of luck with you move(s)