Openreach might rejected BT Wholesale FTTC (PN) new migration system to LLU FTTC (Pulse8) because it count as different product.

I need to speak to Pulse8 about it first.

@ professor973 can you ran BT Wholesale Performance Test with Pulse8? and also does Pulse8 member account showing ip profile on your line just like Plusnet high speed current line speed and BTW Performance Test. Also what is DLM are like with TalkTalk LLU?

Edited by adslmax (Mon 27-Jul-15 00:07:04)

It won't have an IP Profile. That is only BT Wholesale based ISPs. It's BT Wholesale that impose it.

The problem isn't LLU in general under the new system. It is/was BTW FTTC >> TalkTalk (Business?) FTTC under the new system.

Edited by RobertoS (Mon 27-Jul-15 01:00:00)

In reply to a post by RobertoS:

It won't have an IP Profile. That is only BT Wholesale based ISPs. It's BT Wholesale that impose it.

Finally YESSSS!

I do hate ip profile! Let the line run fast as it can be!

Uh uh! Not so simple.

On all BT Wholesale ADSLx and Openreach FTTC connections, and LLU, there are three stability options the ISP can choose. The names can vary, but the effect is the same.

Basically (a) fastest but may get disconnections, (b) a sensible compromise between speed and stability, and (c) best stability.

So although TTB FTTC doesn't have IP Profiles, (Sky and TT ADSL2+ LLU never have had), we don't know what stability option TTB have ordered from Openreach for FTTC.

Can I suggest that both posters who should know better avoid the foul language.

While peoples opinions on providers are welcome, attacks on individuals are not welcome too.

If people cannot simply say they disagree without attacking someone then the ability to carry on further debate may be removed.

My latest angle on trying to determine if BQM packet loss, however small is TBB route specific, is monitoring my fixed IP address with pingplotter pro from our other EE location. So far, all results are 100% clean with no dropped packets. I am therefore not too worried about the odd dropped packet, which I am putting down route between P8 location and TBB - That said, things are much better with my old Billion 7800N. Finding a router that played ball helped a lot.

Edited by professor973 (Mon 27-Jul-15 09:51:54)

Definitely looking better.

Billion routers seem to be getting extremely good reports for FTTC. I forget, is yours a router to an OR modem, or a combined modem/router? My ASUS router has gone yucky! I have a feeling still within warranty but never get round to checking. I'm surviving on the Plusnet 582n.

At my original engineer P8 fibre install, I was left with an ECI OR modem which did not match my cab. At that time, the Billion 7800N would not play ball with an OR modem stuffed up its WAN, which was as well that I had bought a Billion 8800NL fibre modem router in preparation for fibre. Only problem was, it was faulty if you remember. So I bought an unlocked 612 and a TP-Link TD-W9980 fibre modem router. Things still would not play ball properly despite a lot of help from P8. I finally got my old ADSL2+ Billion 7800N to play ball with the 612 a few days ago and things seem to have cleared up gradually. A little packet loss here and there which may be route specific to the BQM, along with just a little evening raised maximum latency, but no drops now or anything that impacts upon usage. A minefield when you are not supplied with a fibre router and in my case quite expensive, but like a terrier that has hold of your ankle, I don't give up lol - End result is a happy bunny, a combination of shortening my flaky copper to the fibre cab, a helpful ISP who are now working on their own hardware for when the modems dry up and determination. A lesson in how it's all too easy to blame an ISP for our problems when it's our hardware that goes wonky.