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Standard User mlmclaren
(fountain of knowledge) Sun 06-Sep-15 23:29:38
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Re: What's next for fibre


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Isn't 2020 the 100Mb/s USO?

FTTC* - FTTN - LTE

*Migrating > Full MPF 16th September smile
Standard User adslmax
(knowledge is power) Mon 07-Sep-15 00:06:56
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Re: What's next for fibre


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In reply to a post by MrSaffron:
The first of the g.fast speed test results from the trials re in top item on www.thinkbroadband.com

The Gigabit part is actually a GPON FTTH trial, G.Fast is aiming for a 300 Mbps product, so likely to be same pricing as BT Infinity 4 once it finally launches


Plusnet are probably will offer 300/30 soon when the new product out soon for G.Fast but I think we won't see it happen until around 2018-20.
Standard User arfster
(knowledge is power) Mon 07-Sep-15 03:51:22
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In reply to a post by WWWombat:
I vaguely recall paying over £50 pm for my first ADSL line, back in 2000, on top of the line rental. You've got to expect to pay for new capabilities, one way or another.


Hehe, me too. Nildram iirc, £50/mth for 2mbit. Went to 20bmit via Bulldog for £30ish in about 2004, and still on adsl2+ 11 years later. There was supposed to be FTTC here, but BT are a litttttttle slow there (only five years late and counting).

G.fast remote nodes are truly impressive for the near future, although obviously there's going to be a great deal of luck involved in distance - if you're near the local pole or wherever they stick the kit, 500-800mbit seems possible. Marginally further away and it's no faster than FTTC.

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Standard User Zarjaz
(eat-sleep-adslguide) Mon 07-Sep-15 08:30:48
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Re: What's next for fibre


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Trouble is would talk about this more in the news, but people don't seem to enjoy positive stuff, like spotting more FTTP in various Openreach areas

Well said.

Administrator MrSaffron
(staff) Mon 07-Sep-15 08:54:36
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Vectoring will push over 100 Mbps

G. Fast is NOT a gigabit solution a poor headline attention grabber

Computers not a problem at all

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Administrator MrSaffron
(staff) Mon 07-Sep-15 08:55:04
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No

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Standard User oaksys
(newbie) Mon 07-Sep-15 09:20:12
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I was in BT's Martlesham Heath labs in the mid 90's where they demo'd VDSL. Even then I had BT people saying off the record that BT should skip VDSL and go straight to fibre to the home. Too many internal power groups were at work protecting their leased line income to make real advances.
Still we are where we are, the next stage should be getting the kinks out of what they've done. Get rid of network congestion by investment in the backbone networks. Provide sufficient capacity so the guaranteed installation time is less than five days. Provide universal coverage of fibre backed VDSL to consumers and small businesses. The network should have greater resilience to protect from single point failures/single incidents. Clear the old copper/aluminium wires that blocks the ducting infrastructure.
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(staff) Mon 07-Sep-15 09:28:12
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Min 90's would have been ADSL, VSDL was much later.

FTTH was off the books because of the favour given to cable to provide competition to BT.

NOTE: Backbone - that is not under BT control in many cases e.g. Virgin Media, Sky and TalkTalk

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Standard User deleted
(deleted) Mon 07-Sep-15 09:29:05
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Most definitely not. In any event, there is no USO on broadband (there is a data one, but it's measured in the 10s of kbps). There is a USC of 2mbps. The difference is important in that a USO is an obligation imposed on an operator whilst a USC is a commitment made by politicians via a project. Despite what people think, neither is absolutely universal. Even USOs are subject to "reasonableness" tests regarding disproportionate costs whilst a USC is not legally enforceable.

In any event, 100mbps is not a commitment by anybody. There's always all sorts of loose talk in various parts of the EU, government circles and so on, but I don't see it appearing soon.

Superfast Wales appears to have a commitment to be able to deliver 100mbps to 40% of premises, but it's unclear how that will happen.

http://www.thinkbroadband.com/news/6866-how-will-sup...
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(deleted) Mon 07-Sep-15 09:30:29
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By which you mean being accused of being an OpenReach stooge?
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