LMAO!

A "mini g.fast cabinet" connects to DSLAM and funnily enough theirs another down the road....

I think it would be safer to say what I and another poster said which is a node in closer proximity to an end users property in order to cut the length of copper and thus reduce interference and degraded signals.

Anyway, it don't matter to you I suppose because you getting a dedicated fibre line aren't you, and for £50 a month.... with BT and Openreach being useless you wouldn't want to have to pay more for a service through them now would you.

I know what you mean with that image. I've seen it before and makes it look like there are lots of 'mini cabinets'.

Have a look at this page: http://blog.thinkbroadband.com/2014/10/g-fast-shows-...

The last paragraph says: "G.FAST is going to be attacked as a stop-gap measure towards a full FTTH future, but just as FTTC has brought fibre in some cases 17km closer to properties, leaving several hundred meters of copper, G.FAST and FTTrN will bring it ever closer and while the FTTP on Demand product is too expensive for consumers when the final fibre splitter is just 100m away we may a much more reasonable installation cost to take the fibre direct to the property."

So from my view, they will bring a node from the cabinet (linked with fibre), to the ideal distance of 100m away from peoples houses. I think any reduction in metres from the cabinet is going to be an improvement. So fast speeds.

I'm at 800m, so if i was to only be 100m from one of these nodes the better.

The stop-gap argument is because this seems to be OR's way of then eventually offering up a fee for the end user to maybe pay for the final copper part to be removed and changed to fibre.. i hope! lol

Exactly.

The design target initially was to put it at the DP, so within 70m for most people. Trials show 500Mb over that distance quite readily.

It seems that G.Fast has achieved much more than they expected, and they figure they can pull the same kind of speeds at greater range, so BT are pressuring the research effort to achieve that ... for distances in the 300-400m range.

One of the obvious results from BT's current trials of G.Fast will be to determine the best distance to place the nodes for 300Mbps, and the drop-off thereafter. And my bet is that their mention of 500Mbps for the future shows that the believe they can squeeze that extra 200Mbps from G.Fast2 nodes in the same location.

Swisscom are running their scheme as FTTS (S=Street), with distances of 200Mbps.

In reply to a post by adslmax:

Plusnet are probably will offer 300/30 soon when the new product out soon for G.Fast but I think we won't see it happen until around 2018-20.

Plusnet have trouble getting to the speed we are suppose to be connected at, so they have little chance of getting to 300Mb/s. Saying that most providers have trouble providing the speed we are suppose to get.

Some cases G.fast nodes may go with the existing VDSL2 cabinet and in other cases they may be deployed at remote locations.

There is no single answer, and in some areas they may even do more native FTTP.

In short the trials are looking at this sort of deployments, varying costs and hours of labour it takes and benefits to end-users, i.e. are people biting the arm off an engineer to get hold of 300 Mbps or are they happy with 100 Mbps for another 5 to 6 years.

Yeah I think G.Fast is a pretty good idea and if its as upgradable as the tech in the current DSLAMS is it could lead to the costs of FoD becoming a lot cheaper in future.

All this depending on locations really and also how easy it will be for Openreach to install fibres to DP's... I know that on my street theres a DP every 20-30 metres apart and most houses have one to them selves or sharing with a neighbour....

However the only issue I see with these DP's is that the cables between them are armoured and buried directly in the dirt underneath the pathways and not ducted like Openreach would prefer so think a road like mine might only see a g.fast node at the end where most or all lines meet!

Never the less this will bring my line down fro up to 450m to around 250-300 metres so that will be an improvement for a start.

In reply to a post by MrSaffron:

There is no single answer, and in some areas they may even do more native FTTP.

Do you know what the setup's are like for those tests you published the other day, or even whats been tested so far or is it too early for any such info?

As with my last post regarding potential node locations and issues faced by Openreach in my situation and would probably say that it would be cheaper for them to deploy FTTP down my street rather than ripping up pavement to install ducts and fibres but as I said they would probably just drop the node at the nearest location with ducts and access to line pairs!

I know I was lucky to have full maximum speed of 75Meg from 77.35Meg but I think I would be more than happy to have 120/30 from G.fast.

Personally I'm quite happy with the 60Mb/s I get currently... I would love to gain more upstream, maybe 30Mb/s...

If I was to desire anything from G.Fast it would be 100/40 ... maybe achievable from a 160/40 wholesale product... currently though I'm more focused on a stable and reliable connection than a fast one.

It's going to become more important for us to have good upstream soon too as were starting to do a lot of 4K video stuff...

My main happiness with FTTC currently is the more stable connection, with little jitter which always annoyed me with cable... even when I had cable in Birmingham and had pretty damn solid speeds constantly I always bitched about jitter & ping!

In reply to a post by adslmax:

lol - I shall called formerly the chief executive of Openreach Liv Garfield to bring in FTTH 1Gbps down and up for £50 a month!

LOL - Liv Garfield has been the Chief Exec of Severn trent Water since April 2014 - She is also a non Exec Director at Tesco so unless you want her to bring a fatter water pipe to your house or drop of your groceries faster you would be wasting your breath!!

Edited by deleted (Mon 07-Sep-15 22:08:54)