In reply to a post by FredTheB:

You can get underground phone line

LOL
I know that, but if BT's underground network is old it might be a tad bit too small and tight for them to install fibre cables, now if moved from FTTP over to FTTC then only digging if needed would be up to the actual cabinet.

Paul

In reply to a post by PaulKirby:

In reply to a post by FredTheB:

You can get underground phone line

LOL
I know that, but if BT's underground network is old it might be a tad bit too small and tight for them to install fibre cables, now if moved from FTTP over to FTTC then only digging if needed would be up to the actual cabinet.

Paul

We have properly ducted underground phone lines that are 10 years old (I saw them being laid as I bought the house off plan). I'm pretty sure the process of running fibre to my house would be smooth if only BT had not stopped at the street before mine.

In reply to a post by MaxNRG:

In reply to a post by PaulKirby:

I know that, but if BT's underground network is old it might be a tad bit too small and tight for them to install fibre cables, now if moved from FTTP over to FTTC then only digging if needed would be up to the actual cabinet.

We have properly ducted underground phone lines that are 10 years old (I saw them being laid as I bought the house off plan). I'm pretty sure the process of running fibre to my house would be smooth if only BT had not stopped at the street before mine.

Well all your BT Chambers/Pits need to be "concrete chamber 915mm x 445mm x 965mm deep in Footway with a precast jointing chamber (725mm x 225mm) 600mm depth" or there about, not measured ours yet, but our last old one was just re-built back in June.
So all your chambers that are to get FTTP hardware in them need to be the above sizes or larger, so hopefully being only 10 years old they should be fine.

Also yes back in 2011 you was down for FTTP but you was never down to get FTTP in the first 66% commercial rollout which BTOR seem to still be doing now, I think you may still end up getting fibre due to you wasn't down as being not viable back in Dec 2011.

You have to realise that the FTTP Commercial rollout is still being done due to being slowed down or put on hold in favour of BDUK work to prioritize that work first, I know its not fair, but from a business sense, it makes sense.

Just think we was down to have FTTP back in Oct - Dec 2011 and things are just starting to happen now, so that's nearly 4 years on hold.

TBH I think the reason we are still getting FTTP was because we already have all the required hardware that was installed back in 2011, where as you probably don't.
This was why I was saying that you "may" end up getting FTTC instead of FTTP due to it being quicker and cheaper to install and your cabinet being on a main road.

But like I have said, try and get your MP and neighbours involved, knowing that a lot of residents are interested in getting fibre may also help.
When BT phoned me 10 mins after my local MP left my home, they was shocked that 394 lines on our cabinet are missing out on getting fibre that was suppose to of got it back in end of 2011, I think they was shocked on the amount as well I knew the amount.
I think it was a bit touch and go at first, but we are gradually getting there now.

So getting your MP and neighbours making a fuss along with stating how many lines that are missing out on getting fibre (~220 lines in your case) which is plenty for FTTC (if moved over to that).

Paul

Well, a bit miffed at the moment with BT Openreach.

I was told via email from openreach the end of May that if all goes well I could order FTTP the beginning of July, then at the start of July I was told end of July and with all the engineers that have been down our road and side roads for the last month that end of July sounds about right, the engineers have now installed everything and said its all now complete and that I would have to do now is wait for the database to be updated to reflect this work that has been done.

This week I have noticed a cable coming out of our Fibre Manifold up our pole, I cannot see where exactly it goes due to there are over 30 phone lines coming from our pole and it looks a mess up there, so I emailed BT Openreach again explaining this where I was then told its now scheduled for the end of August even though the fibre hardware is all live for that home connected to that fibre cable.

I have also been told by BT Openreach that there is still some work to be done, so I have asked what exactly needs to be done for it to go live, so hopefully they will let me know what is left to be done.

Don't get me wrong I am fully aware of things can go wrong resulting in delays in going live, I have no issues with that, but when a home can already get FTTP on our pole which is using our fibre hardware then shouldn't the rest of us that are on our pole.

So another 35 days wait.
The way this is heading it would of taken exactly 4 years for them to install +325 FTTP lines with a length of 3.5km.

Ah, well.

Paul

Edited by PaulKirby (Mon 27-Jul-15 18:56:35)

In reply to a post by Ribble:

Sooner rather than later, which may seem vague but I wouldn't like to build up your hopes just yet.

Hey Ribble, do you have any new news of our fibre install?

It seems that nothing has happened as you already probably know.

BTOR via email says loads of work still to do, however the engineers that was replacing the fibre links between the Fibre DP units throughout July including the guy at the end that did all the splicing in the Fibre DP's etc and the all say its now completed and just need to wait for the job to go live in the database and that was over a month ago.

I am hoping its not wait until 2016 or 2017 due to it was suppose to of been done back in 2011.

And to top that off there is a home 4 doors down from me that is on our pole that can order FTTP, so our hardware must be live, but just for that address.

BTOR seems to be ignoring me now via email, so maybe they know something that they aren't telling me.

So hoping for some good news.

Paul

I can only conclude its either a database error if an address on the same manifold can get service but you cannot , or the manifold capacity is already exhausted, or the splitter is full.

Edited by deleted (Fri 18-Sep-15 13:08:07)

In reply to a post by Ribble:

I can only conclude its either a database error if an address on the same manifold can get service but you cannot , or the manifold capacity is already exhausted, or the splitter is full.

Hello Ribble, thanks for the reply.

Well I can say its not full, following the route of all addresses who's phone lines are on PCP cabinet 24 (basically all the Fibre DP's that are daisy chained) and there is no fibre coming out of their manifolds, the only one that has is on our pole.

Take a look at postcode E12 5AX and the only address that can get FTTP is number 44 all the rest cannot get it.

And the only difference is that number 44 is using PCP cabinet 39 however are on our pole and using our manifold etc.

And like I have said some place if they are on our pole they must be using our hardware because they are 100% using our manifold, and if they are using our hardware then its live and we should also be able to get it.

So that led me to a database error and BTOR will not admit to that.

BTW can you see any more work to be done or can you see it as completed?

Thanks

Paul

Well as usual BT and BTOR keep saying end of the month, end of the month every time I contact them.

Like I have said in other posts that BT have told my local MP and myself on Dec 21 2015 that they had identified a potential issue with our records and they are investigating it now and that it would take a few weeks to complete.

And then on Feb 08 2016 due to my local MP contacting them one more we was told that the case is currently with their planning team, who are still investigating the issue, and that they would get back to us once they get a response.

Just to remind you all that this FTTP work was started back in end of 2011 and still hasn't been completed.

Now if we was located in a rural area covered by BDUK we would of already had it all done back then, sadly we are located in Greater London and are not covered by BDUK due to being under the Commercial FTTP Project.

The last email that I got from BT Openreach was on Feb 15 2016 which when like the following:

The area is in the progress of being upgraded at the moment, the upgrade will be FTTP, I have checked to see which work is still to do to complete the upgrade and allow you to place the order and we are being given an estimated completion date of the end of February at the moment.

There will then be a couple of weeks for the records to be updated and the service to be activated and then we are hoping you should be able to place your order.

Now what's the bet 2 weeks in March its still not done and I get the same response but given end of March + 2 weeks for database update.

Going by what they said above "I have checked to see which work is still to do to complete the upgrade" they have access to what is being done and what has to be done, so why cant they just tell me what is currently being done.

Paul

Hey Ribble

Sorry to pester you again, its been a while so I was just wondering if you had any new news about our FTTP ?

Thanks

Paul

As this is still not happening I would suggest a nice email to Andrew. My bet is a database error if you say a house was connected last year