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Standard User deleted
(deleted) Mon 19-Oct-15 21:18:50
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In reply to a post by 10forcash:
"Make sure you leave your router turned on. We'll be gradually adjusting your speed until it is as fast as possible over the next 10 days."
They can't do that
Standard User RobertoS
(elder) Mon 19-Oct-15 21:22:32
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MrSaffron gave it in short, or to be more precise wrote in English what Openreach say in their definition of FTTC. Specifically Section 2.2.1 of this document.

See this page about the BT Wholesale 10-day period on ADSLx. Note what actually happens at the end of the ten days.

That doesn't apply on Sky, who do start ADSL2+ LLU line at normally 4Mbps then ramp them up over a few days. TalkTalk I don't know, but have never heard it mentioned in relation to ADSL2+.

Nor, fairly obviously, can it really apply on FTTC, over which BT Wholesale have little control. The fault reporting speeds on FTTC are also determined by Openreach and are not set in any 10-day period.

I think you have been told this by someone at TalkTwaddle.

Re your error counts, remember on ADSLx the copper is used all the way from the exchange to you, with all the scope for problems that entails. On FTTC only the distance from the FTTC cabinet, (through the PCP), to you is copper.

The indispensable man or woman passes from the scene, and what happens next is more or less the same thing as was happening before.
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(deleted) Mon 19-Oct-15 21:23:34
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This is FTTC


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Standard User deleted
(deleted) Mon 19-Oct-15 21:43:58
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Thanks for the info - it's only 'fairly obvious' once i'd speed - read the document! I'd made the (reasonable IMO) assumption that the local copper was treated in the same way as an ADSL circuit, maybe Talktalk also assume that!
Interesting that a retrain can be initiated by a user initiated power cycle, although i'd be tempted to leave it off for >30mins, urban myth or not.
Standard User RobertoS
(elder) Mon 19-Oct-15 21:51:31
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As I said, in order to show how the 10-day period so beloved of BTW could not possibly apply to FTTC, nor to any TalkTalk LLU or GEA circuit.

The indispensable man or woman passes from the scene, and what happens next is more or less the same thing as was happening before.
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(deleted) Mon 19-Oct-15 22:01:42
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Thanks
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(deleted) Tue 20-Oct-15 07:35:56
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In reply to a post by WWWombat:
But you're right - the HG635 is likely to be Broadcom-based too. Perhaps the faceplate has made things worse.


I can confirm that the HG635 is indeed Broadcom. Not 100% sure, but I think the HG633 is too.

FWIW, I am currently working on getting HG612 Modem Stats to work with a HG635.

It is being tested on an ADSL connection at the moment, so once it's all working properly, it would probably need tweaking for VDSL.use.

Some data I haven't seen previously is reported for the test G.DMT connection:-

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23
45
67
89
1011
1213
1415
1617
1819
2021
2223
2425
2627
SF:             89002974                89019132
SFErr:          7081            608RS:             89002974                89019132
RSCorr:         9358722         15897RSUnCorr:       143742          0
 LinkRetrain:    0
InitErrors:     0InitTimeouts:   0
LossOfFraming:  0 
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;Bitswap:        270703          119
  
 UPBOkle:        7738
actualCE:       0SNRmode:        0
AtucPhys SNRmode:       0 
Total time = 1 days 12 hours 30 min 22 secFEC:            17689015                0
Standard User RobertoS
(elder) Tue 20-Oct-15 09:43:11
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Line 27 seems to have the same iffiness as in this thread.

I assume it's 20-24 you are referring to?

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Standard User solchain
(learned) Tue 20-Oct-15 10:04:46
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In reply to a post by Bald_Eagle1:
FWIW, I am currently working on getting HG612 Modem Stats to work with a HG635.

It is being tested on an ADSL connection at the moment, so once it's all working properly, it would probably need tweaking for VDSL.use.


Am I right in getting from this that you may get the HG612 modem stats working with a TalkTalk HG635 or have I completely missed the point?
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(deleted) Tue 20-Oct-15 20:12:30
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In reply to a post by RobertoS:
I assume it's 20-24 you are referring to?


Yes it is.
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