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Standard User deleted
(deleted) Mon 02-Nov-15 20:44:38
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Re: How acurate are speed tests (ISP conflict)?


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Have tried in FF, IE and Chrome and get similar download speed results but the upload changes. This always seem to happen with the upload speed however.

I tried again with 2 different speed checkers just seconds apart and even these sppeds vary
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Think BB Speedtest

Speedtest.net

I also tried on my standalone editing machine which has no anti virus nor firewall and the results are pretty much the same in 2 different browsers.

The fibre network is completey new however with all our roads dug up a few months back which makes me wonder if theres any problem with the speed I'm getting as its a 'new set up' or am I just worrying about nothing?
Standard User Michael_Chare
(experienced) Mon 02-Nov-15 20:47:47
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With fibre, the connection probably runs at the rated speed as far as the cabinet, 94x Mbps is the most you can get out of a 1GB connection.

After that your problem is contention. In simple terms, and no doubt depending on the supplier, the more you pay the better the contention is managed to your advantage.

If you are an earlier adopter, you may find that the service you get deteriorates as more people get connected.

IME and I am a Gigaclear customer.

I have one of the early contracts which do allow the maxium speed, at the lowest price. These days if you placed an order for the same money you would get a 'committed' 50Mbps service, which may well be a better way of sharing the backhaul.

I use the dslreports.com speed tests. The results are what you might call variable. On one speed test I thought my upload speed was about 940x till I noticed the units where kbps. It recovered the next time I tried. Generally when I use these speed tests the speed tends to build up.

It is not like my ADSL days when the speed was limited by the 6km length of my telephone line.

Michael Chare
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(staff) Mon 02-Nov-15 20:50:14
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You also tried Internet Explorer which gave better upload speeds?
http://www.thinkbroadband.com/speedtest/results.html...

Chrome also did better on the upload too
http://tbb.st/1446496545852586555

We know our tester will go faster on the download, as we have people running tests like this
http://www.thinkbroadband.com/speedtest/results.html...

We have some test files you can access at http://www.thinkbroadband.com/download.html the 1GB file should obviously be around 8 seconds to download for you beyond that maybe worth asking Gigaclear if they have an on-network set of files or tester and then verify the traffic levels by monitoring your network connection in Windows.

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Administrator MrSaffron
(staff) Mon 02-Nov-15 20:53:05
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Possibly not the local fibre, but the links between the ISP and the rest of the Internet

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(deleted) Mon 02-Nov-15 21:02:32
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In reply to a post by Michael_Chare:
I use the dslreports.com speed tests. The results are what you might call variable. On one speed test I thought my upload speed was about 940x till I noticed the units where kbps. It recovered the next time I tried. Generally when I use these speed tests the speed tends to build up.


That gave me the best result of the evening Test

In reply to a post by MrSaffron:
We have some test files you can access at http://www.thinkbroadband.com/download.html the 1GB file should obviously be around 8 seconds to download for you beyond that maybe worth asking Gigaclear if they have an on-network set of files or tester and then verify the traffic levels by monitoring your network connection in Windows.


The 1g file took approx 3 mins for me.
Administrator MrSaffron
(staff) Mon 02-Nov-15 21:15:15
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So either a PC issue or a network issue somewhere.

DSLreports uses 24 downloads at once to really over saturate a connection, we use six as we believe that is enough on a reasonably well setup connection.

Time to find out if Gigaclear has any files on its network to eliminate some of the variables.

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(deleted) Mon 02-Nov-15 21:24:55
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Ok, thanks guys and I'll contact Gigaclear tomorrow.
Standard User Michael_Chare
(experienced) Mon 02-Nov-15 22:09:32
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In reply to a post by mattcee:
The 1g file took approx 3 mins for me.
I manage 53 secs

You mentioned you were paying £99 pm but I don't see that on the Gigaclear price list. There are uncontended packages on the Enterprise business price list.

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(deleted) Mon 02-Nov-15 22:10:18
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If you try several sites and your PC is up to the throughput, then you might see speeds a little above 900Mbps on a Gbps. Whatever the highest figure you come across you will at least know that your PC and local interconnection is capable of at least that speed.

Beyond that, any variation you see will be due to contention issues. If a speed test site is set up properly, then it should not be contention there as they should be designed so they aren't contended whilst running tests (and if you see the same variability over several sites then it's definitely not a single bad site).

That gets you down to contention. One of the things the gigabit fibre outfits do not make clear is that Gbps speeds are not guaranteed. The service is always contended at some point (unless you get a very expensive leased circuits). So just how much bandwidth you'll get will be down to how much capacity the service provider will put in place to cope with peak loads. It's simply uneconomic to guarantee 1Gbps to everybody. It's one of those dark secrets which are not advertised.
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(deleted) Mon 02-Nov-15 22:20:17
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Apologies, Its Seventy- something Pounds and not £99.
I wasn't aware that fibre speeds could be lower than stated so I've learned something tonight.
Its still better than the 1meg speed BT can offer - and I don't have to deal with them wink

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