At the end of the day is there actually any benefit in using FVA? You still pay the same line rental so there's no financial incentive, and I struggle to think of any technical advantage.

No suffering from earth and battery faults, using 'next generation' technology before many others, hopefully WAY more future proof than your old copper pair. The (cough) 'Travelling Folk" won't pinch your network, etc, etc.

In reply to a post by Zarjaz:

When I had my FTTP installed, right at the end of the installation the Openreach engineer asked me if I wanted to keep using copper for the phone line, or if I wanted to move it to FVA. I chose FVA out of convenience, but the choice should be given to you on the day of installation.

Summat amiss there, the CP will either have or have not ordered the FVA service prior to the installation.

It's not really a case of 'opt in, or opt out on the day' ?

I don't recall either way in the ordering process, but I was multitasking somewhat badly at the time

In reply to a post by Zarjaz:

The (cough) 'Travelling Folk" won't pinch your network, etc, etc.

They probably will, for a while yet. They won't get much money for it, though.

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In reply to a post by Zarjaz:

The (cough) 'Travelling Folk" won't pinch your network, etc, etc.

They probably will, for a while yet. They won't get much money for it, though.

They could melt it down and sell it on spools on fleabay as spools for 3d printers LOL.

Paul

In reply to a post by Zarjaz:

I wonder if anyone with experience of FTTP/FTTH and Fibre Home Phone could answer my question about the potential use of existing telephone extension sockets once your line has been switched to the fibre?

Yes, there should be a lead run from the TEL1 port on the ONTE to the existing NTE. The previously described faceplate allows the feed to be switched between FTTP and PSTN if needed. Once complete any previously working extensions will work again.

With the copper/fibre faceplate on the master socket and switched to 'Fibre' I can't think of any reason why you couldn't connect the TEL1 port to any one of your extension sockets instead of the master socket faceplate - effectively all your extensions (and the original lower faceplate part of the master socket) are all connected together and once isolated from the incoming copper line no reason why you can't inject the FVA from TEL1 into any of the interconnected sockets.

Tradewind

You may pay the same for Broadband and FVA renral as you would for Broadband and PSTN rental but the chanrges OR ask of your provider are structured differently.

FTTP BB rental high + small increment for FVA ( 135Kb path)
Hign Copper ( SMPF or MPF) for PSTN + small increment for BB

Sp if you take FTTP plus PSTN you have 2 high charges..

This is why some do not provide a voice service with FTTP at all BUT it is only a little cheaper ( If anything) to you. You then use VOIP but get no service in a power cut.

Other thing, the battery back up has to be a minimum of an hour, it may be far more than this depending on how much you use the phone whilst the mains are down. BT will overspec to cover aging batteries etc as this is a regulatory requirement. ( Ordinary AA batteries should work fine if you want to keep spares, just in case, alongside the candles!)

Yes, that would work, but would not provide a true master allowing the switching that the faceplate is built for, potentially causing issues if new owners or the current one wish to go back down the copper based route.

In reply to a post by Tradewind25:

You still pay the same line rental so there's no financial incentive, ...

If you want to avoid paying line rental, and as long as you don't mind having only the choice of a 40/2 or 80/20 FTTP service, PlusNet will allow you to cancel your phone line after your FTTP is enabled. So you would pay only £17.49 or £22.49 respectively (unlimited usage on each). See this thread.

If you want to keep your existing landline number you could port it to a VoIP company (e.g. Voipfone charges £20+VAT to port the number, then £2+VAT per month)

In reply to a post by Zarjaz:

Yes, that would work, but would not provide a true master allowing the switching that the faceplate is built for, potentially causing issues if new owners or the current one wish to go back down the copper based route.

Isn't the faceplate nothing but an on/off switch which just disconnects the internal wiring from the incoming copper line but leaving the ability to switch back? So, disconnect from incoming copper and connect TEL1 to any convenient point on the internal wiring.

As connecting your POTS phone directly to TEL1 is an option then then there can't be any requirement for the NTE5 electrically in the circuit?

The point is that you're compromising the whole installation, so future upgrades would be difficult.