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Standard User deleted
(deleted) Sat 16-Jan-16 12:36:08
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Re: FTTP & Shared Utility Poles


[re: ian007jen] [link to this post]
 
In reply to a post by ian007jen:
Thanks....with only 100 lines in total I just thought (and the info from Magenta code look) that there was just 11 "EO bundles"


Though, looking at "all postcodes", it also reports that there are 9 postcodes, but only using EO bundles 1, 4, 6, 8, 9 and 10. No mention of 2, 3, 5, 7 or 11.

And at the same time, reporting that bundles 1, 2 and 3 are included in "Phase BDUK Wales 15b".

I don't think the data in Magenta stays very consistent when copper re-arrangement is under way.
Standard User cymru123
(learned) Sat 26-Mar-16 19:54:17
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Re: FTTP & Shared Utility Poles


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Well, looks like there is now some overhead fibre tubing coming into the hamlet travelling about a mile strung from post to post till reaching the hamlet.
Most of the poles where overhead tubing has been strung (or where there is also a loop of the ducting temporally attached to the pole) have a sign saying "Caution Overhead Fibre".

I'm assuming the next stages would be distribute the FTTP infrastructure around the hamlet (assuming the precast chamber will also be used to further split and distribute the fibre) and to install the manifolds?
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(deleted) Sat 26-Mar-16 22:20:26
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Re: FTTP & Shared Utility Poles


[re: cymru123] [link to this post]
 
Interesting, so you think they are bringing it overhead after which it goes underground again?


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Standard User cymru123
(learned) Sun 27-Mar-16 17:27:20
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Re: FTTP & Shared Utility Poles


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Well the overhead fibre tubing has entered the hamlet from one end. The precast chamber that was built a few months back is sort of in the middle (which from previous responses could be used for a splitter node or aggregation node).

Haven't seen any pole mounted fibre splitters yet (though seems to be early-mid stage of the deployment so some may pop up at some point).

All the properties are fed by overhead copper pairs at the moment so I'm assuming the fibre will need to go underground at some points to go up the various distribution poles that are daisy chained.- i.e the current copper is distributed underground at some points to travel to the next series of distribution poles.
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(deleted) Mon 28-Mar-16 01:00:19
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[re: cymru123] [link to this post]
 
This all sounds very odd. That jointbox (that's what we call them) in the middle of the overhead fibre run is confusing me. I'm wondering if the intention was to bury the fibre, which is what would usually happen and they just couldn't do it so they've had to go overhead instead.
Standard User cymru123
(learned) Mon 28-Mar-16 10:53:11
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Re: FTTP & Shared Utility Poles


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@Icaras and anyone else,

I've drawn a quick basic sketch to try and illustrate what is currently there.

I've only included the poles in the hamlet. Where a pole is on it's one this illustrates that the copper pairs are fed to it from underground - i.e it's not fed by a carrier pole.
I've also included the new precast chamber, however other Openreach chambers and jointboxes also exist.
Also FYI, the new overhead fibre tubing travels the same route into the hamlet as the copper ariel cable (which has all the copper pairs coming into the hamlet)

Click here to view sketch

If the image doesn't load - you can try to download it here. Both links are on a ~0.34Mbps upload link.
Standard User cymru123
(learned) Sat 21-May-16 18:14:48
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[re: cymru123] [link to this post]
 
Just a quick question.

What would cause multiple customers within the same hamlet to have their connection resync at the same time, and also causing a reduced in connection speed?

Not much of an issue as a manual power cycle of the modem-router usually resolves it.

There is still a lot of fibre works going on in the hamlet, so might partially be down to that? e.g disturbing the Arial cables whilst up on the poles. - Not complaining as we are nearly getting there for FTTP.
Administrator MrSaffron
(staff) Sat 21-May-16 19:09:10
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Disturbance of copper or maybe something like turning on a noisy (in the RF sense) device, e.g. arc welder etc

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(deleted) Sun 22-May-16 12:16:39
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They most certainly are making Openreach lift some lines where they cross a road and shared utility poles are in use. Exactly that happened right outside my parent's house who live in a rural single-track cul-de-sac about 400 metres. There's not even a turning point (the council waste truck has to reverse down the lane). A man with a measuring pole came along and explained that where the phone line crossed the lane (as the poles changed sides), it would have to be lifted to conform to new EU regulations. It didn't matter that it was a dead end, or that quite large farm vehicles and the council refuse truck passed underneath.

A few weeks later a gang came along and dug a trench across the road with some ducting (it took three days as it was a long one on the diagonal and the road was essentially laid onto solid chalk). A pull rope was left and some months later an OR engineer came and put in the new underground cable and removed the old one.

I've no idea what schedule this is on, but there is certainly a process in that bit of the country (Buckinghamshire) to lift cables, even if it's in an unlikely location.

I also recall there was an OR engineer killed a few years back when a lorry snagged such a line and brought a pole down. That may well have prompted this.
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(deleted) Sun 22-May-16 14:38:48
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Yes but I'm not aware of any new regulations in the last few years. I think what you're describing is OR just applying the existing rules that have been in place for many years.
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