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Standard User gt94sss2
(fountain of knowledge) Fri 05-Feb-16 02:51:06
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Re: ECI FTTC Cabinets still don't support G.INP?


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35MHz or 30MHz? VDSL2 stops at 30.


There is a 35b profile - sometimes called Vplus or VDSL+. Its basically a supercharged 30a vectored line.

It has some advantages for telco's but at shorter distances, G.Fast outperforms it (and from memory - I don't think the two play well together)

I don't think OR could roll it out even if they wanted to atm - due to the frequency plan - but they prefer G.Fast anyway.
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(deleted) Fri 05-Feb-16 08:29:19
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Re: ECI FTTC Cabinets still don't support G.INP?


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In reply to a post by BatBoy:
Do you have any evidence that lantiq(owned by Intel) - support G.INP ?


Both the HH5A and T-Link TD-W990 use the same Lantiq VRX-268 modem chipset.

TP-Link issued new firmware in May 15 enabling the TD-W990 to work properly on G.INP lines . From their firmware notes:

Fixed the bug that the speed dropped on the BT line of UK when G.INP was enabled.
The problem is we are talking about cabinets not modems tongue
Standard User Nightglow
(regular) Fri 05-Feb-16 09:17:37
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Re: ECI FTTC Cabinets still don't support G.INP?


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In reply to a post by RobertoS:
35MHz or 30MHz? VDSL2 stops at 30.


There is a 35b profile - sometimes called Vplus or VDSL+. Its basically a supercharged 30a vectored line.

It has some advantages for telco's but at shorter distances, G.Fast outperforms it (and from memory - I don't think the two play well together)

I don't think OR could roll it out even if they wanted to atm - due to the frequency plan - but they prefer G.Fast anyway.


Can't find orginal article, but I did find this.

http://gfastnews.com/

http://gfastnews.com/index.php/90-r/139-supervector-...


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Standard User RobertoS
(elder) Fri 05-Feb-16 09:41:20
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Re: ECI FTTC Cabinets still don't support G.INP?


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That's good, thanks.

BT must know about that, I wonder if they have ruled it out for now. Has anyone heard of any Openreach trials, as G.FAST seems to be favourite at the moment and if I read the first article correctly this replaces that?

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Edited by RobertoS (Fri 05-Feb-16 09:46:55)

Standard User Nightglow
(regular) Fri 05-Feb-16 10:22:15
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Re: ECI FTTC Cabinets still don't support G.INP?


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G.Fast might just be a red herring, & BT have been beavering away on SuperVector technology, a 100 Mbit/s within 800 m (2624') just short of half a mile, without requiring network restructuring must be tempting.

Edited by Nightglow (Fri 05-Feb-16 10:26:08)

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BT have been beavering away
I assume you are joking.
Standard User RobertoS
(elder) Fri 05-Feb-16 11:58:57
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G.Fast might just be a red herring, & BT have been beavering away on SuperVector technology,
Link please?
a 100 Mbit/s within 800 m (2624') just short of half a mile, without requiring network restructuring must be tempting.
Which was behind what I posted. If your post is just conjecture with no source, rather than the "fact" you present, G.FAST is looking like the way they are going. Instead of (for the moment) any form of vectoring. Though the last time I looked they were saying modems must be vectoring-capable.

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Standard User Nightglow
(regular) Fri 05-Feb-16 12:10:23
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Re: ECI FTTC Cabinets still don't support G.INP?


[re: RobertoS] [link to this post]
 
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In reply to a post by Nightglow:
G.Fast might just be a red herring, & BT have been beavering away on SuperVector technology,
Link please?
a 100 Mbit/s within 800 m (2624') just short of half a mile, without requiring network restructuring must be tempting.
Which was behind what I posted. If your post is just conjecture with no source, rather than the "fact" you present, G.FAST is looking like the way they are going. Instead of (for the moment) any form of vectoring. Though the last time I looked they were saying modems must be vectoring-capable.


Sadly, it's just conjecture, but there a old saying, there is no smoke without fire...
Vectoring would achieve a lot more, but we will just have to wait & see what happens in the coming months...
Standard User simon194
(experienced) Fri 05-Feb-16 14:49:51
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There's still the issue of ECI DSLAMs not supporting vectoring unless there are any V41's out there.
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(deleted) Fri 05-Feb-16 17:26:17
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Well I can tell you what hey are saying internally matches what the statements externally say. It IS all about G.Fast now. Trials are ongoing and are going well and more people are being added to the trials
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