Surely VDSL2 was designed to be used over UTP copper? As is G.Fast?

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Surely VDSL2 was designed to be used over UTP copper? As is G.Fast?

G.FAST is over very short distances I would think, or there would be no point.

Normally from the last chamber/phone pole before building, remember that CAT5e is about 100m if I recall for 1Gbps, which is why you need to be on FTTP to fully get the 1Gbps with G.FAST, unless you are using less than 16m of copper cable from the hardware in the chamber to your modem/router etc.

If we wasn't down for FTTP and we got G.FAST, the most we would get would be about 800 Mbps (up and down streams combined) due to we have about 60m of copper to our nearest chamber.

Paul

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In reply to a post by lee111s:

Blame Thatcher

Not quiet sure why we would blame a dead person... or how even?

I udnerstand what your trying to say, but' it's a poor excuse.

BT wanted to start a fibre roll out back in the 80's and she stopped it as she wanted more competition in the market.

Didn't BT also want to provide TV exclusively down that fibre?

http://www.techradar.com/news/world-of-tech/how-the-...

In reference to www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/oftel-forced-to-tone-down-attack-on-b...:

Tony Blair's eye-catching deal with BT to cable up schools, hospitals and libraries to the information superhighway for free was attacked by the telecom regulator yesterday for increasing the company's monopoly power.

In reply to a post by mlmclaren:

So basically, no fix is planned and Openreach have moved past VDSL and more interested in G.Fast and getting higher 'headline' figures to go head to head with the opposition.

Correct. I'd get on the blower to Hyperoptic.

In reply to a post by mlmclaren:

Recently losing near 30Mb/s off my downstream and expecting a rather significant ammount of connections to go live onmy cabinet and within the DP I'm connected too, I'm rather concerned I may end up losing another 10-20Mb/s...

I wouldn't worry so much.

You had a very high attainable rate - 120MBish - but were the only customer in a new build

It was always going to go down as new customers came online but the impact of each additional user will be less and less.

Now that the first signs of G.INP being rolled out to ECI cabinets have appeared - I suspect Openreach will turn to rollout more vectoring..

Edited by gt94sss2 (Sun 06-Mar-16 18:55:21)

To bring customers a distance from the cabinet above 24-30Mb sure. To ensure people in MDUs stay on 80Mb rather than being somewhere in their estimate but not at the top not so much.

Zero business case in spending the cash on that enterprise. Vectoring cards aren't cheap.

"why you need to be on FTTP to fully get the 1Gbps with G.FAST"

That makes no sense since any DSL technology does not work over fibre, it requires a metallic path