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Standard User PaulKirby
(fountain of knowledge) Mon 07-Mar-16 18:21:50
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Re: Vectoring??


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I know it was the combined speed that's why I said that in my other reply, I think it might be the sync speed, I was more interested in the customization of it, like say one day I was doing YouTube content creation that required a larger upload stream bandwidth I would just set it as say 700Mbps up and 200Mb down (900Mbps package for my length of copper line being about 60m) and one the upload was complete I would swap them round.

Or if the 900Mbps package was a bit on the pricy side I could choose a 360Mbps package where 330Mbps down and 30Mbps up and so on.

I think BT might be thinking of doing the exact thing with FTTP later on where we can choose a combined speed and configure it as we would like it.
So if a content creator we might favour the upstream a little more etc.

Paul
Administrator MrSaffron
(staff) Mon 07-Mar-16 18:29:10
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You cannot customise it, the split is decided at product time and is fixed for that particular cable bundle. If you have people with varying splits you increase the cross talk and break the vectoring systems.

Bringing FTTP into the mix is just confusing people, since Openreach FTTP is GPON based system and has splits for how download and upload work.

If you want fully configure like you are saying then you need a dark fibre provider.

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Standard User rarrar
(member) Mon 07-Mar-16 18:33:18
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Have seen my Attainable download go from 130Mbps to 90 Mbps over 12 months but I was one of the first to connect to the cabinet.


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Standard User PaulKirby
(fountain of knowledge) Mon 07-Mar-16 18:39:43
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You cannot customise it, the split is decided at product time and is fixed for that particular cable bundle. If you have people with varying splits you increase the cross talk and break the vectoring systems.

Oh, that was the impression that I got from the document and the video that I found a little while back, which both seem to say that you can customize your connection to how you want to use it.

Maybe this would be a one off choice, so I wish they would of said that.

In reply to a post by MrSaffron:
Bringing FTTP into the mix is just confusing people, since Openreach FTTP is GPON based system and has splits for how download and upload work.

Like I said in my other reply to you, BT said in that doc before it was changed that to benefit the 1Gbps over G.FAST that you would have to be on copper line either 19m or shorter or on a FTTP connection, their words not mine.

But yeah, what you said in that post makes sense.

In reply to a post by MrSaffron:
If you want fully configure like you are saying then you need a dark fibre provider.

Like I said I was only going by the impression of what I read and saw.
I wish I bookmarked that video now.

Paul
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(deleted) Tue 08-Mar-16 12:27:37
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It wouldn't be a one-off choice for customization. There will be a product set and you purchase one of that set.

You will not be able to decide on your upstream and downstream split regardless of technology or provider.

This would break capacity planning in the case of FTTP and the entire node in the case of G.fast.

I am not aware of anywhere in the world where this is an option.
Standard User mlmclaren
(knowledge is power) Tue 08-Mar-16 18:15:36
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Have seen my Attainable download go from 130Mbps to 90 Mbps over 12 months but I was one of the first to connect to the cabinet.


I'm not to worried 'currently' about crosstalk at cabinet level, the worst locations for crosstalk that affect me currently are the drop cable (50 pair) fed from the PCP direct to my building's Distribution Point serving 24 apartments and the buildings various systems.

I've watched my 120 drop to 79 so far... I've continued to watch it drop slightly more over the last few days, I'm also witnessing my SNR dropping, whcih as expected makes the connection less stable.

I'm currently keeping an eye onto it into the evening and thinking about doing a reboot of my modem at the worst point to get it back on target... this will mean me losing more sync speed but keeping it clutching at straws might cause DLM Intervention... already bad enough that potenitally there's a slight delay on my downstream yet my upstream is perfect...

Not good for realtime shooter gaming frown

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