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Administrator MrSaffron
(staff) Sat 19-Mar-16 13:12:45
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What is this 'cannot refuse' guarantee?

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Standard User mlmclaren
(knowledge is power) Sat 19-Mar-16 13:24:43
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In reply to a post by HarryHomers:
a daft question ?
how do they know whether your line is clean or impacted ? and what does it start on an engineer install, clean or impacted ?


From what I've been told by both an ISP and Openreach Engineers...

Clean = Line Installed and/or tested by engineer (from customer premises)

Impacted = Line Remotely Activated and Un-Tested (So if your provider sent you a router and then gave you an activation date to plug it in rather than a visit from Openreach.

BTInfinity - 79999/19999kbps - Quality Monitor - Quality Monitor 2
VirginMedia - 77000/5250kbps - BQM L1 - BQM L2
Standard User mlmclaren
(knowledge is power) Sat 19-Mar-16 13:27:11
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The ISP should be sending an engineer if the speeds are not within the quoted upon ordering the service.... if they refuse to book an appointment or can't due to Openreach's refusal ( or changing the estimate figures after order) then the ISP needs to offer the customer an early termination without fee's if they want to go elsewhere for service.

BTInfinity - 79999/19999kbps - Quality Monitor - Quality Monitor 2
VirginMedia - 77000/5250kbps - BQM L1 - BQM L2


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Standard User deleted
(deleted) Sat 19-Mar-16 13:33:05
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In reply to a post by MrSaffron:
What is this 'cannot refuse' guarantee?


The line is below the minimum speed expected for the line. Surely an engineer is sent out to attempt to remedy the problem or the OP is allowed to leave the contract without penalty?
Standard User deleted
(deleted) Sat 19-Mar-16 13:34:18
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In reply to a post by mlmclaren:
The ISP should be sending an engineer if the speeds are not within the quoted upon ordering the service.... if they refuse to book an appointment or can't due to Openreach's refusal ( or changing the estimate figures after order) then the ISP needs to offer the customer an early termination without fee's if they want to go elsewhere for service.



Exactly how I understand it works.
Standard User MHC
(sensei) Sat 19-Mar-16 15:28:01
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The figures are almost certainly within those shown on the BT checker at time of order.


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(deleted) Sat 19-Mar-16 15:41:17
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The OP is synced at 25meg. The low end of the clean range is 35. Something is not right, either the checker isn't accurate, or there's an issue with the phone line.

At 700m (if this is correct) the OP should be getting more than 25meg. I would expect closer to 45.
Standard User MHC
(sensei) Sat 19-Mar-16 15:44:06
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So what?

The low end of impacted is below the actual sync. The OP IS within forecast speed ranges.


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(deleted) Sat 19-Mar-16 16:07:35
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When you sign up with BT retail (not sure about other ISP's) the speed range you're given on their website is the clean range. Nothing is mentioned about the impacted range.

If the OP is with another ISP we need to know what they were advised their speeds would be when they took out the service.

I've just picked a random postcode to test this on. Number 28 at NE6 3SF.

Clean range is 49.7-37.

BT's website shows 50-37meg with a minimum guarantee of 32meg.
Administrator MrSaffron
(staff) Sat 19-Mar-16 16:16:44
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ISP and Openreach can still refuse to send out an engineer, i.e. there is no guarantee of any engineer attending to uplift the speed

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