still waiting here.

sods law I be the last one on any forums to get it.

In reply to a post by timl:

No G.INP (as confirmed by sync speed calculation) and on still on fastpath.

I don't understand!

Thanks
Tim

Not quiet sure why the 'calculation' from Huawei's G.INP rollout would be correct on ECI... specially based on the difference's between the 2 rollouts...

Was your HH5a Interleaved before the restart?

The rollout of G.INP on ECI cabs has revealed that modems pick up the interleaving typoe as fast path where us on Huawei cabs with G.INP have a Interleaved Path type.

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Interesting post. Thanks.

In reply to a post by mlmclaren:

Was your HH5a Interleaved before the restart?

Before the restart my HH5a was on fast path. I believe it's still on fast path based on the 6ms ping.

Sync speed for my 8800NL went from 55Mb (no GINP and fastpath) to 61Mb (with G.INP and fastpath) as confirmed by the 8800NL's GUI. The HH5a synced at 61Mb before GINP and now manages near 65Mb. I can only conclude that my HH5a has G.INP enabled on the downstream.

In reply to a post by timl:

Before the restart my HH5a was on fast path. I believe it's still on fast path based on the 6ms ping.

Sync speed for my 8800NL went from 55Mb (no GINP and fastpath) to 61Mb (with G.INP and fastpath) as confirmed by the 8800NL's GUI. The HH5a synced at 61Mb before GINP and now manages near 65Mb. I can only conclude that my HH5a has G.INP enabled on the downstream.

I thought that was the case and yes exactly what you have said about the HH5a is what I've witnessed with the HH5a too, So I too believe that the G.INP has been enabled on both your connections.

Thanks for sharing

PS. does the following apply to both or either of your connections?

Use the G.inp Formula to determine if your vdsl2 connection is with or without G.INP.
Divide your IP Profile by your Sync Speed and the answer is 0.9669 (with) or 0.9679 (without)

Doesnt look mine has yet, heres my stats

adsl info --stats
adsl: ADSL driver and PHY status
Status: Showtime
Last Retrain Reason: 0
Last initialization procedure status: 0
Max: Upstream rate = 7101 Kbps, Downstream rate = 35364 Kbps
Bearer: 0, Upstream rate = 7157 Kbps, Downstream rate = 35388 Kbps

Link Power State: L0
Mode: VDSL2 Annex B
VDSL2 Profile: Profile 17a
TPS-TC: PTM Mode(0x0)
Trellis: U:ON /D:ON
Line Status: No Defect
Training Status: Showtime
Down Up
SNR (dB): 6.0 6.0
Attn(dB): 26.5 0.0
Pwr(dBm): 11.4 3.4

VDSL2 framing
Bearer 0
MSGc: 19 33
B: 239 224
M: 1 1
T: 64 5
R: 0 16
S: 0.2158 0.9995
L: 8896 1929
D: 1 1
I: 240 241
N: 240 241

Counters
Bearer 0
OHF: 230028810 558180
OHFErr: 12830315 1135
RS: 0 806669
RSCorr: 0 3697
RSUnCorr: 0 0

Bearer 0
HEC: 1661579 0
OCD: 1330 0
LCD: 1330 0
Total Cells: 2727805388 0
Data Cells: 4049460110 0
Drop Cells: 0
Bit Errors: 0 0

ES: 703412 856
SES: 3962 0
UAS: 230 23
AS: 797377

Bearer 0
INP: 0.00 0.00
INPRein: 0.00 0.00
delay: 0 0
PER: 3.46 16.30
OR: 57.69 19.13
AgR: 35445.54 7175.70

Bitswap: 376942/377007 633/650

Total time = 9 days 5 hours 33 min 38 sec
FEC: 0 3697
CRC: 12830315 1135
ES: 703412 856
SES: 3962 0
UAS: 230 23
LOS: 0 0
LOF: 0 0
LOM: 0 0
Latest 15 minutes time = 3 min 38 sec
FEC: 0 0
CRC: 3882 0
ES: 218 0
SES: 0 0
UAS: 0 0
LOS: 0 0
LOF: 0 0
LOM: 0 0
Previous 15 minutes time = 15 min 0 sec
FEC: 0 2
CRC: 17708 0
ES: 900 0
SES: 6 0
UAS: 0 0
LOS: 0 0
LOF: 0 0
LOM: 0 0
Latest 1 day time = 5 hours 33 min 38 sec
FEC: 0 55
CRC: 333910 18
ES: 19721 12
SES: 36 0
UAS: 0 0
LOS: 0 0
LOF: 0 0
LOM: 0 0
Previous 1 day time = 24 hours 0 sec
FEC: 0 421
CRC: 1214226 137
ES: 84242 108
SES: 288 0
UAS: 0 0
LOS: 0 0
LOF: 0 0
LOM: 0 0
Since Link time = 9 days 5 hours 33 min 13 sec
FEC: 0 3697
CRC: 12830315 1135
ES: 703412 856
SES: 3962 0
UAS: 207 0
LOS: 0 0
LOF: 0 0
LOM: 0 0

I had a dlm reset 10 days ago, nothings changed since then i had a massive boost from 25000 kbps to now what you can see in my stats after a line fix, any idea if these will be changed by dlm and if my errors are ok anyone?

Edited by zebo (Tue 29-Mar-16 17:49:46)

In reply to a post by mlmclaren:

PS. does the following apply to both or either of your connections?

Use the G.inp Formula to determine if your vdsl2 connection is with or without G.INP.
Divide your IP Profile by your Sync Speed and the answer is 0.9669 (with) or 0.9679 (without)

Some one pointed out this thread to me last night.

That formula has been proven not to work for the ECI modem /modems capable of downstream G.INP only on both Huawei and ECI cabs. They also appear to get slightly different framing parameters.

According to Openreach's Chief Engineer both the ECI modem and HH5A performs retransmission in the downstream direction only.
I specifically asked about the ECI modems & HH5A's. Ian surely would not have been prepared to put his name against something if it wasn't correct. - See Question 3 here.

If you have an ECI modem/ HH5A you cant use the IPprofile method regardless of type of DSLAM as proof

Its not always much use measuring speeds between different modem types either. For example on my own line the VRX-268 chipset gives me 3Mbps less than the BCM6368 which in turn gives me 3.5Mbps less than one using a BCM63168. It's a known fact that most lines will see speed differentials based on the type of chipset in use.

Thank you very much kitz.... I thought this was the case, Hopefully this will be satisfactory for those insistent on stating otherwise.

Edited by mlmclaren (Tue 29-Mar-16 18:23:33)

In reply to a post by kitz:

According to Openreach's Chief Engineer both the ECI modem and HH5A performs retransmission in the downstream direction only.
I specifically asked about the ECI modems & HH5A's. Ian surely would not have been prepared to put his name against something if it wasn't correct. - See Question 3 here.

As you note above, to comply with SIN 498, modems and routers must support retransmission in the downstream

Does the HH5A comply with SIN 498?