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Standard User mlmclaren
(knowledge is power) Sat 02-Apr-16 12:42:38
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Re: Is there a difference between all BT Providers?


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You know what they mean....

Why you being such a troll for?

Why not correct them instead of confusing them!

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Standard User mlmclaren
(knowledge is power) Sat 02-Apr-16 12:46:25
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In reply to a post by godsell4:
Is this true for Market 1 exchanges? Or does a Market 1 exchange only have BT backhaul connected to it?


Yes - A Market 1 (or A as its now known) is an exchange with only BT Wholesale as it sole provider....

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Standard User RobertoS
(elder) Sat 02-Apr-16 18:06:40
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Market 1 only had BT Wholesale.

Market A is BTW and BTW + 1 other Principal Operator, from Sky, TalkTalk and Virgin.

Link.

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Standard User deleted
(deleted) Sat 02-Apr-16 19:03:35
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Thanks. I had a feeling that simply renaming Market 1 as Market A would be a pointless exercise.
Standard User deleted
(deleted) Sun 03-Apr-16 19:13:00
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I'm not sure if we're talking about FTTC or ADSL here. But if we think of ADSL then it can also depend what equipment the LLU providers have at the exchange compared to BTW's. For example, Sky have a system called Nitro running, whixh gives a higher maximum sync speed than BTW on ADSL2.
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(deleted) Sun 03-Apr-16 19:14:51
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This is the Fibre Broadband section.
Standard User rarrar
(member) Mon 04-Apr-16 09:27:37
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In reply to a post by lee111s:
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Sky, Talk Talk and a number of others use their own backhaul network though beyond the exchange. Where as BT and PlusNet, amongst others, use BT Wholesale's backhaul network.

This CAN make a difference depending on how much capacity each ISP has, or has "bought" for exchange areas. I usually only affects peak speeds but almost every ISP will suffer "hot VP's" in different areas from time to time.

Nice simple description of the situation.
The problem for a customer is knowing what the situation is with a specific ISP in THEIR area ! Whereas monthly contracts were available on ADSL, for FTTC one has to sign up for 12 months so its not so easy to try an ISP out.
I have excellent speeds during the evening but often poor speeds during the day but have no idea whether switching ISPs is going to help.
Standard User RobertoS
(elder) Mon 04-Apr-16 11:26:44
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I have excellent speeds during the evening but often poor speeds during the day but have no idea whether switching ISPs is going to help.
Which ISP are you with?

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Standard User rarrar
(member) Mon 04-Apr-16 14:34:30
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Vivaciti
I do seem to get very different results on the TBB speedtests from BTW and speedtest.net.
The latter 2 never seem to show full speeds (>60Mbps) while the TBBx1 is often <10Mbps during the day with TBBx6 either showing the same or >60Mbps.
Evening both TBBx1 and TBBx6 show >60Mbps

Last year results used to be conistent across testers.
Standard User deleted
(deleted) Tue 05-Apr-16 12:54:49
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In reply to a post by godsell4:
Is this true for Market 1 exchanges? Or does a Market 1 exchange only have BT backhaul connected to it?


For FTTC the market designation of the exchange is largely irrelevant. It applies to ADSL only, and the FTTC connection almost certainly terminates elsewhere where other operators do have backhaul.
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