Stop trying to derail the thread. First you bring up other companies like Tesco and now you're harping on about G.INP. Stick to the point.

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You appear to be rewriting history. BT as a private company with shareholders and answerable to those same shareholders received nothing for "free".

They received the General Post Office telecommunications network for £1.

That is correct, although I couldn't remember the exact price details it was bought for a token gesture and nowhere near what it would have cost to put in place. So I don't think I was far off or rewriting history.

As for the assertion that the further out cabinets are prioritised first, you couldn't be more wrong, in fact Irbys cabinet is one if, if not the furthest away and receives a very poor speed compared to the others and that one is still a long way from being done.

You misunderstand. At this stage the further out cabinets are prioritised, that's not always been the case. Nor should it have been, an algorithm has been used for the commercial cabinets to try and work out which cabinets will have the best takeup. You're not looking at the big picture, you're solely looking at what's happened in Irby which, granted, is all you really can do. But maybe you should listen a bit more to people who have a wider view of what's going on.

What cabinet are we talking about here anyway? Because to be honest I can't really think of any cabinet that is far from the exchange, in comparison to other areas. When I talk about other cabinets being prioritised I'm not talking about other cabinets in Irby necessarily.

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They received the General Post Office telecommunications network for £1.

That is correct, although I couldn't remember the exact price details it was bought for a token gesture and nowhere near what it would have cost to put in place. So I don't think I was far off or rewriting history.

As for the assertion that the further out cabinets are prioritised first, you couldn't be more wrong, in fact Irbys cabinet is one if, if not the furthest away and receives a very poor speed compared to the others and that one is still a long way from being done.

You misunderstand. At this stage the further out cabinets are prioritised, that's not always been the case. Nor should it have been, an algorithm has been used for the commercial cabinets to try and work out which cabinets will have the best takeup. You're not looking at the big picture, you're solely looking at what's happened in Irby which, granted, is all you really can do. But maybe you should listen a bit more to people who have a wider view of what's going on.

What cabinet are we talking about here anyway? Because to be honest I can't really think of any cabinet that is far from the exchange, in comparison to other areas. When I talk about other cabinets being prioritised I'm not talking about other cabinets in Irby necessarily.

I can only go on the Irby exchange as that is the only one I have any information on.

I cannot remember the cabinet number, but it is in Mill Lane and looking at the google map of the area with the exchange in the middle is is just about the furthest out.

There are cabinets closer to the exchange than mine (cabinet 8) that were done much sooner too, in fact they seem to have done all the surrounding ones.

Cabinet 8 does actually show accepting orders, although it has been like this for nearly 2 months but no supplier can actually place an order for it so I'm not totally convinced that this is the case.

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That is correct, although I couldn't remember the exact price details it was bought for a token gesture and nowhere near what it would have cost to put in place. So I don't think I was far off or rewriting history.

As for the assertion that the further out cabinets are prioritised first, you couldn't be more wrong, in fact Irbys cabinet is one if, if not the furthest away and receives a very poor speed compared to the others and that one is still a long way from being done.

You misunderstand. At this stage the further out cabinets are prioritised, that's not always been the case. Nor should it have been, an algorithm has been used for the commercial cabinets to try and work out which cabinets will have the best takeup. You're not looking at the big picture, you're solely looking at what's happened in Irby which, granted, is all you really can do. But maybe you should listen a bit more to people who have a wider view of what's going on.

What cabinet are we talking about here anyway? Because to be honest I can't really think of any cabinet that is far from the exchange, in comparison to other areas. When I talk about other cabinets being prioritised I'm not talking about other cabinets in Irby necessarily.

I can only go on the Irby exchange as that is the only one I have any information on.

I cannot remember the cabinet number, but it is in Mill Lane and looking at the google map of the area with the exchange in the middle is is just about the furthest out.

There are cabinets closer to the exchange than mine (cabinet 8) that were done much sooner too, in fact they seem to have done all the surrounding ones.

Cabinet 8 does actually show accepting orders, although it has been like this for nearly 2 months but no supplier can actually place an order for it so I'm not totally convinced that this is the case.

Ah I give up! Completely missing the point again.

I did say in my post that I understand Irby is the only area that you personally can look at.

What you need to understand is that no one in the company will be worrying about how many cabinets in a certain exchange area are accepting orders. It will be managed on a county level, and a regional level. They'll be prioritising resources based on how many cabinets in the North West still aren't live.

Irby is quite a small exchange area, most people could get more than 10Mb already. None of the cabinets there will be a priority as far as the north west of England goes, they just won't be.

Mill Lane? The only Mill Lane I can think of is in Thingwall and doesn't have a cabinet on it.

I believe cabinet 8 has quite a few live connection already , so I suspect whatever is preventing an order being submitted is particular to your line and not the cabinet

so I suspect whatever is preventing an order being submitted is particular to your line and not the cabinet

"DACS me up before you go - go"

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so I suspect whatever is preventing an order being submitted is particular to your line and not the cabinet

"DACS me up before you go - go"

I have never had a problem with having DACS on the line, when I had a fault a couple of years ago I was speaking to the engineer and he confirmed that there was nothing like this installed.

Of course, things might have changed since then, is there anyway I can find out?

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so I suspect whatever is preventing an order being submitted is particular to your line and not the cabinet

"DACS me up before you go - go"

Think about it! How can he have DACS? He's got working ADSL on the line.

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so I suspect whatever is preventing an order being submitted is particular to your line and not the cabinet

"DACS me up before you go - go"

Think about it! How can he have DACS? He's got working ADSL on the line.

That's true.

So what could be stopping me from upgrading to fibre if as above there are others on my cabinet able to get it? Who do I contact to try ang get this looked into? Plusnet? They are my line and ADSL supplier.

Yes exactly, your ISP should be your first port of call.