As you know the route taken, can you track various properties along that route to see how the availability drops off?

And this means VDSL2 speed estimates of 1 to 4 Mbps from our system, and Openreach appear to be saying not available meaning they believe line is such that this may not even be possible.

So what do i do now? Sick of 3mb or expensive 4g mobile broadband. My entire village of 100 premises cant order fibre, yet each village either side 1 mile away can. It almost feels my village is being deliberately ignored by BT! If BT enabled adsl2+ from the cab (and huawei cabinets can do this!) we could get 12+mb broadband that i would be perfectly happy with!

Edited by 8skellerns (Wed 27-Apr-16 23:54:56)

In reply to a post by 8skellerns:

If BT enabled adsl2+ from the cab (and huawei cabinets can do this!) we could get 12+mb broadband that i would be perfectly happy with!

You likely wouldn't.

The cabinet would have to deliberately reduce power of the cabinet-based ADSL2+ signal, to make sure it didn't interfere with the exchange-based ADSL2+ signals (just like it has to do with VDSL2).

The power reduction would be such that the transmitted signal at the cabinet would have to match the signal strength of the exchange signals as they pass by.

If the power and signal strength has to match, then the performance will match too.

Only way around it: ban all exchange-based ADSL/2+.

In reply to a post by 8skellerns:

So what do i do now?

As the cabinet has been put in place as part of the Leicestershire BDUK project, the first stop is with them, to make sure they keep your village marked NGA-white in their coverage maps.

Then it is a matter of trying to make the village appealing to BT to install an infill cabinet - like their "all-in-one" cabinet, that has both a DSLAM and a PCP. It is happening in some places.

You have 100 premises ... so, how many do you think would go for an FTTC connection?

If you could get a significant number to commit - why not consider partial self funding? Persuade BT to install and you as residents would make a contribution to the costs.

Most if not all properties want fibre as everyone is sick of slow unreliable broadband. It was suggested that we contributed as a community, but as each village each side got enabled by BT and by the council, the will to contribute dwindled as the feeling was they are all getting the fibre cabs etc installed without personal funding, so why shouldnt we?

Simple - the target is not 100% superfast, so councils/BT are cherry picking so that they get to the existing targets with minimal spending.

You could wait to find out what the 10 Mbps USO brings once it finally becomes a right, or whether the county takes some of the savings from first and second phases (and maybe clawback money) and pushes on closer to 100% superfast than what current targets are.

So why not take the council to task ... they will have made the decision on cabinet enablement and instructed BT (with funding). You (the village) need to make the council aware that even though they council made the decision, probably at lowest cost to them, none of you can get any improvement and their investment is flawed!.

What is needed is a new PCP installing and your existing connections moved to that, then a fibre twin adding to give an improved service. Or a combined PCP and DSLAM - which given the village size could be possible. Then fibre running the extra mile to that cabinet.

You really will need to hammer the council ... or wait several years.

The way the contracts work usually is the council only pays the gap funding amounts for those who benefit, i.e. get superfast or in some contracts go above 15 Mbps

So if a BDUK project goes live and no-one can get superfast from it then the council should be invoiced nothing.

Even if a council agreed now - probably looking at 18 months to 2 years or more for anything to change on the ground, community funding might reduce that time frame to 12 months.

True, and in this case there is a whole village that has got FTTC just that the next village on the same cabinet gets none. BT will have given the council the estimates of who would benefit and who would not and the council would make the final decision to invest. BT will have said something like - "this cabinet/PCP) provides connectivity for 180 properties, 60 in village A, 100 in village 2 and 20 outlying. By installing an FTTC twin, 55 in village A will get a good FTTC service, possibly 10 outlying will benefit and possibly just 5 in village B might get a sub 10Mbps service". And the council can then agree or disagree on whether to gap fund and if they do not want to, BT will walk away.

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