In reply to a post by olivercer:

Two years ago I was living in London, the landlord put TallkTalk fibre. Their router was a nightmare, but was using the Openreach box.
Regardless the current TalkTalk router quality, does it still use the Openreach box?

The Openreach modems are no longer issued by Openreach. AIUI all suppliers now offer combo boxes, though of course you (in most cases) you don't have to take their offering.

EDIT:
That's what Talktalk says for my line
Download Speed: 59Mb to 80Mb
59 is too low, or maybe it's how their estimate works?

All estimates by ISPs basically come from the database that this checker uses.

The only thing that should cause your connection speeds to change if going to a TT or TTB line would be the stability settings they order from Openreach. They may be a higher stability than BT Wholesale, so a bit slower. As you seem likely to get full whack anyway that isn't likely to matter.

Re throughput on TalkTalk, the TalkTalk service apparently has seven internal priority levels, with Retail being on 7, (the lowest), and Business/Business Wholesale on the higher ones.

In reply to a post by lelboy:

Hi, Not quite a correct comparison, I think. With the £27.49, you've not added the line charge: that would make it £2.51 cheaper - surely (22.49+5+17.99).

Where does the £17.99 come from? That's the expensive BT Retail isn't it?

Plusnet is £16.99 and if he took that would get all the offers, save £50, and get the broadband for £19.99.

Edited by RobertoS (Thu 12-May-16 17:00:45)

All,

Thank you all for the great answers.

Pulse8 line rental is nothing compared to ISPs, £6 vs £18ish! Good, good to know.
How do I get this in place? All ISP support this setup?

In reply to a post by RobertoS:

What do you mean Pulse8 isn't worth it for the price? £44pm including line? The service itself is well spoken of, and the CS is good. Plusnet CS isn't wonderful.

I meant that £44 all included is not much different than my current charges. I don't doubt about the service!!!

TalkTalk + Pulse8 line would be damn cheap. Plusnet a bit less.
Tempted.

TalkTalk insist on you taking their LLU line. As a result so do Pulse8broadband who are reselling TalkTalk Business Wholesale. You cannot buy TalkTalk Retail yourself and line rental separately from anywhere.

If you go for line only with Pulse8, which I and kasg and some others have, and your broadband elsewhere, the line rental is £13. I pay £1 on top of that for caller display, but my call charges per month are a low number of pence.

I did post in my early plusnet days with better throughput on pro, but all my time on the ipv6 testing account (which didnt have pro priority) speed was fine as long as I wasnt been routed over a dodgy BTw MSIL.

So I think on the unlimited accounts pro is not needed now, its just an insurance policy just incase plusnet become a bottleneck which seems unlikely now.

Of course if one doesnt want the priorities plusnet set on their own line, then pro is good for making traffic equal as well. As it makes most traffic gold.

In reply to a post by RobertoS:

The Openreach modems are no longer issued by Openreach. AIUI all suppliers now offer combo boxes, though of course you (in most cases) you don't have to take their offering.

That's bad. I don't want to stick to terrible ISP routers, but VDSL router are very expensive. What's the alternative here? Get an old Openreach box and the router I want?

In reply to a post by RobertoS:

All estimates by ISPs basically come from the database that this checker uses.

Allright, I know well that website. 59 is the impacted line rate, which is not my case.

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At this point, if I can get the line rental via Pulse8, shall I go for TalkTalk or PlusNet?

In reply to a post by RobertoS:

TalkTalk insist on you taking their LLU line. As a result so do Pulse8broadband who are reselling TalkTalk Business Wholesale. You cannot buy TalkTalk Retail yourself and line rental separately from anywhere.

If you go for line only with Pulse8, which I and kasg and some others have, and your broadband elsewhere, the line rental is £13. I pay £1 on top of that for caller display, but my call charges per month are a low number of pence.

Pulse 8 + PlusNet: £13 line rental + £22.49 p/m = £35.49

TalkTallk: £32.70 for the first 12 months, then £40.20.

PlusNet would still be cheaper, but just without the Pro pack.

uSwitch shows that SSE is offering good deals as well: £21 for 18 month of unlimited 76 Mbit fibre. I have never heard them before.

Edited by deleted (Thu 12-May-16 17:32:18)

Hi Bob, I just took a typical line rental charge and added it to the figures - £22.49 and the £5.00 as quoted by the OP (I edited a little adding up error). BT - as you know - are increasing their prices in a little while, so I'll be shutting down one of my lines with them! Cheers, Les.

I always try to compare like with like. So for example I would spread the £50 Plusnet setup across the first year when comparing with other first-year costs. £4.17pm.

I don't see where your TalkTalk figure comes from at all. Their website is far from easy. It looks to me to be more than you have found.

Are you not interested in what Quidco or TopCashBack might come up with?

While you can pay in the £200 region for your own VDSL router, basic modem devices are cheaper and can pair with an router that accepts an Ethernet WAN connection, the price of that router depending on how fast you want the wireless side to be.