The only real issue I envisage with what you propose, is that the first part of the installation, fitting the BFT and blowing of the fibre, is non appointed, if you aren't around the job will keep being delayed.

You keep referring to 'a modem' , I guess you mean router ?
You say there's going to be an Ethernet link between this room and the main property ? My suggestion would be to use this link between the ONTE and the router which could reside within the property itself.

Did you spot he already has the FTTP ONT installed in a garage, which is to be demolished Zarjaz? So fibre re-routing into new ducting.

Re "modem", my fault in an earlier post. Fixed. Doesn't alter your point though, re where to put the router. I get the impression it is in the garage at the moment.

Edited by RobertoS (Sun 29-May-16 09:47:39)

There will be builders on-site all the time so it shouldn't be an issue for BT to get access whenever they want. Should I get the builder to lay some "EZ Bend cable" fibre through the ducting so it is easier for BT or just include a drawstring and BT will pull their own fibre through?

I can put the router in the main internal house and connect the ONT through an ethernet cable. Sorry - I should have said router, not modem!

Thanks very much for your advice

I assume you have checked that you can actually get a FTTP service to your property

He already has it ...

I take it that your "plant room" houses boiler/s etc, rather than vegetative plants etc.

Could there be any sources of electrical noise in the plant room, that may interfere anywhere along the copper part of the installation?

Yes - boiler and similar equipment with the electricity and gas meters.

I am debating whether to install/duct for copper at all - at the moment we have FTTP and copper coming into our garage - is there any reason to install copper or shall I just go for a pure FTTP installation?

I don't have the every-day experience to be able to say; but I trust that others better-placed than me, will do so.

In reply to a post by bdo21:

Can I install the ducting into the plant room or will BT complain?

I wonder if you are missing something subtle here? Something about ownership of existing infrastructure?

The existing ducting belongs to BT, and the fibre coming through it is part of the BT network ... and you strictly aren't supposed to fiddle with anything beyond the ONT (nor the ONT itself, probably).

What is happening to the existing fibre? Who makes sure that is removed correctly, separated from the DP, and unlit? Who is removing the copper, and making sure it is no longer fed with electricity?

If you are going to be installing ducting on the BT side, just what do you expect to connect *your* ducting onto? Joined onto existing Openreach ducting somewhere underground? I'm pretty sure that Openreach won't let you connect "your" ducting - though they might give/sell you some of theirs to install yourself (restrictions apply, to seal the ducts from gas/liquid), which will then become their property as they later reconnect you.

The original link you were given also has links to "Process, contracts and policy"; that in turn has links to both:
- Network Alterations ("as a builder, developer, architect, consultant or contractor, it's important you notify us first before starting work on your project to avoid causing any unlawful network damage that you'll be liable to pay for");
- External Network Relocation ("if you are only carrying out demolition works and/or require the isolation of network apparatus").

The "Altering our Network" page includes statements of "If you wish to move or alter our network apparatus on a public footpath/pavement/highway, or on your land, such as ... ", "Underground ducting or cables" and "An internal distribution connection box (this is where our external network meets your internal telecoms wiring)"

The Openreach website has this page for the kind of work you look to be doing (including building extensions), and has contact details. I'm pretty sure you ought to be talking to them - and they will be able to give you direct answers on what you can do on a one-off rebuild, rather than a new property.

Somewhere in there is the warning:

In reference to www.openreach.co.uk/orpg/home/contactus/customernetworksolutions/op...:

If there is any Openreach plant on a property you'll be working on we're the only people who can move it for you. If you don't contact us and make any alterations, remove or replace fixings, remove drop-wires or lead-ins (temporarily or permanently) or do anything which adversely affects our network this would be classed as trespass and we would take appropriate action against any third party who trespasses on our network.

I'm surprised your builder/architect hasn't mentioned anything.

In reply to a post by bdo21:

Should I get the builder to lay some "EZ Bend cable" fibre through the ducting so it is easier for BT or just include a drawstring and BT will pull their own fibre through?

It is unlikely that BT would want EZ cable placed in ducting that is connected to their access network. They normally only use that within the customer's premises, after the splice point. From all your descriptions so far, your ducting appears to be on the BT side of the splice point.

That contact details above will, I'm sure, be able to give you the right details.

In reply to a post by bdo21:

is there any reason to install copper or shall I just go for a pure FTTP installation?

I suspect that the choice might not be yours - BT might insist (for their USO obligations) that you restore the copper ducting too.

No I didn't Bob, sorry.

To the OP, what distance is it from the existing CSP to your suggested new location for the ONTE ? The 'eezee' bend cables only come in maximum lengths of 30m, so it may not be feasible to do as you suggest.