BTWholesale test has been multithread for some time I believe

In reply to a post by brandscill:

Interested to see the outcome as I'm debating a move away from Plusnet to try and save some money at the moment.

I suggest you try retentions one more time, I know you had no joy before, but in my experience it's worth a go.

Tried 4 times in total. Best they would do was £15 a month for 40/2 which would change to 55/10 for 24 months

In reply to a post by MrSaffron:

BTWholesale test has been multithread for some time I believe

Thanks. When I am taking downloads from sites for software and even Windows updates, what I see in Kbps is pretty similar to the TBB Winzip file download corresponding to single thread which I've assumed to be more common than sites who get you installing their downloaders, but now I can see why they do it. I tend to avoid those, because I can never be sure what their exe files contain and always try to get a download from the authors site.

Are we saying ISP download speed claims are based on average single thread downloads, multi thread downloads, or is it a free for all for them to choose what they say to market services? It smells of the old days when audio amplifer and speaker manufacturers quoted 'peak music power' instead of RMS and so it was people went out going for the big Watts number, but were not comparing apples with apples. Only here we also add in a time of day/congestion dependent variable.

Amusingly, there's no such thing as Watts RMS, which seems to be a typical situation in marketing that affects us today.

Is that without the phone line? They usually do much better deals with phone.

There was when I designed high power PA amps. Power into a resistive water cooled load measured with a True RMS meter. It's RMS power that burns out speech coils in loudspeakers and matters when you want 'headroom'. It's why todays newbies push through super bass (getting closer to d.c in signal terms) or their amplifier source squares off and they burn out speakers in their cars. Music power is just a term used to rate products according to 'average' frequency response and the intermittent nature of music. Push recorded organ through a system rated like this or get low frequency howl round feedback and you soon discover its limitations. The power demands on amplifer and speaker design are in the low frequencies. Interesting observation, but off topic.

I thought that too but following a conversation with a very clever guy I know who is an inventor with several patents in electronics, I checked Wikipedia which backs it up as being nonsense https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Audio_power#Continuous...

The point is that marketing says that you are getting full speed although your actual experience is a lot less.

Yeah with a phonline.

Always has been in the world of electronics I have been involved in!
RMS stands for Root Mean Square and will give an 'average' value, as opposed to a peak value. it will be the dc heating power for a sine wave. This works out to be 0.707 of the peak value for a sine wave.