Its saying VDSL range clean 10.1 -5.8. Interupted 7.9 - 2.5. If this is my expected speeds it is a lot less than less than a year ago BT quoting 22-32 mps! The thing is if it gets any slower would be better going back to adsl? That would be ironic and quite moronic regards BT/ OPENREACH.

Can you copy and paste the full results?

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VDSL Range A (Clean) 10.1 5.8 1.2 0.8 -- Available -- --
VDSL Range B (Impacted) 7.9 2.5 1.1 0.6 -- Available -- --
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For all ADSL and WBC Fibre to the Cabinet (VDSL or G.fast) services, the stable line rate will be determined during the first 10 days of service usage.


Would having BT reset the first ten day usage period help?

That means that basically without crosstalk you could expect around 10Mbps.

With crosstalk, which is likely, speeds of 7.9 to 2.5Mbps.

Crosstalk usually hits at once, in my experience, so chances are 15 was without and 7.5 is with. Hopefully it'll stay around that speed.

Regarding 10 day training, no such thing on FTTC, that's all just CS lies. DLM runs all of the time on the line, it is kind of always in training, and will make adjustments to speed as and when it is required. This can work both ways, faster and slower.

What ADSL2+ speeds were you getting? It suggests 2.5 to 6.5 and often can be conservative?

ADSL2+ might give you a more stable speed, which does not vary often.

You mention BT laid the cabling for 200m down the drive and installed FTTC, did you never try bog standard broadband at this address?

Edited by ukhardy07 (Tue 02-Aug-16 14:30:21)

The builder laid the cable. Yes I was on standard ADSL which was by memeory around 6-7mps. So I jumped at FTTC, actually the deal BT had on at the time made FTTC slightly cheaper anyway. Speeds started at 12mps which was a great improvment. However they have slowly droped over the past three years as per graph shows. Also I have had not frequent but annoying regular drop outs of connection and some days speeds are so slow 1-2 mps.

Graph of decreasing speeds on FTTC.

Would it be right or wrong to assume if I was on normal ADSL over this time I would see a corresponding drop? Friends live down the road, mayby a mile closer to the cabinet and they get 5-6mps on bog standard ADSL.

ADSL does not suffer from cross talk to the same extent as VDSL2, due to the different frequencies used.

So yes ADSL may be a better choice for you. If you private message your postcode I will look at what our pessimistic estimate is, i.e. our checker is using a worst case cross talk scenario.

Would it be right or wrong to assume if I was on normal ADSL over this time I would see a corresponding drop? Friends live down the road, mayby a mile closer to the cabinet and they get 5-6mps on bog standard ADSL.

No, it is very different, comparing apples with oranges. Your setup may not have been optimised on ADSL, so actually it may outperform. Take up MrSaffron's offer

It is very unlikely the ADSL speed would be worse now.

It was grey plastic coated, steel reinforced then a black plastic coating of multiple wires brown, green, white, blue, orange.

That's an armoured 5 pair cable you are describing.

The builder kinked this when laying it though phone and internet worked from begining. As it is armoured it should be ok with the kink?

Is it visible? Can you upload a photo somewhere please?