Filtered faceplate.

I assume you have self install rather that an managed one !!!

they will then test to see what to get a NTE and whether this issue is internall
if that is the case you will proably have to fund an engineering to get a faceplate change

then it is filtered. He said no filters.

Who did, and where?

In reply to a post by Chrysalis:

how can a customer avoid using a filter? if you try to plugin a modem directly to the phone part of a nte5 it wont physically fit.

Very common setup in homes.

Telephone line enters the property. There is a master socket and then lets say 2 extensions.

Home owner connects up their router and a cordless phone in the master socket using a filter.

Then in the living room, they connect their sky box directly to one of the extension phone sockets, and do not use a filter.

Then in the kitchen, theres a phone socket, homeowner connects a secondary landline, again without a filter.

Speeds plummet.

Edited by ukhardy07 (Fri 19-Aug-16 11:02:02)

ok do you meaning unfiltered voice devices rather than unfiltered dsl devices.

I have still yet to see one of these common setups where people have a socket almost in every room Almost everyone I know just has a master socket and thats it, but then again I dont know many people living in large houses. Just normal semi detached 2/3 bed's.

Isn't a filtered socket supposed to filter out all voice data including from other external sockets.

On the flip side my property does have 2 ntl phone sockets. But when I had cable both didnt work at same time, I had a choice of which one ntl would connect to.

All of the "xDSL splitters" that I have examined to date, are "straight-through" on the side labelled "Modem", "xDSL" etc, so that side continues to also carry the "traditional" phone services, particularly Voice.

Apart from checking on various circuit diagrams, I have opened one up, to confirm the above.

So if you manage to plug a conventional phone in to the "Modem" socket on such a splitter, the phone will continue to operate.

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The "Phone" side only of those xDSL Splitters, does have an HF Reject Filter in series, so preventing the xDSL signals reaching any phone or other device plugged in to that side, "seeing" the Broadband signals.

So if you manage to plug a modem in to the "Phone" socket on such a splitter, the modem should NOT work, as the Broadband signals are rejected by the HF Reject Filter circuitry in series.

Occasionally with a poorly designed Splitter, a modem may manage to work - but this would be very slowly probably..

I have carried out tests, using up to 5 xDSL splitters in the appropriate Series configuratons - having suitable RJ11 to RJ45 adaptors.

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My phone wiring "grew like topsy", being a real mixter-maxter developing from about 1974, with extensions added at various times.

We had two outlets/phone sockets even then - much to the amazement of visitors.


For many broadband years, I used one of those original extensions for Dial-up, ADSL and recently VDSL, using such a splitter on all of the in-use extensions.

The NTE is one of the simple RJ11 type, no built-in filter - and not upgradeable in itself - only by replacement - but in a hard-to-reach location.

Recently, I did install an Ethernet cable from it to the modem, using a VDSL splitter at the ancient NTE.

All of the phone extensions were already terminated in one RJ11 plug, so it simply went in to the "Phone" side of that VDSL splitter, leaving all of the existing splitters, mainly ADSL, in situ, so that if necessary (unlikely), I can revert quickly to the earlier set-up.

The Ethernet cable etc improved my BB by about 0.2 Mbps Download from 36.9 to 37.2 Mbps, on a 40/10 contract.

No obvious improvement on the Up-load side.

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I have about 5 wired phone outlets, two with conventional phones connected, plus two cordless-phone systems using two more of the wired outlets, with 3 handsets on the older cordless system and its base unit also acts as a fixed handset; and two handsets on the newer cordless system (not as good as the older one!).

Plus two mobile/cell phones.

So 8 "phones" in a typical 3 bedroom, two public rooms and usual "offices" house - AND still we seem to need more!

I expect the majority of houses with telephones have extension sockets. Pre-cordless phones it was essential if you wanted phone access in more than one room.

Some people may have removed extensions when decorating, once they have cordless, but what then about Sky boxes?

In reference to helpforum.sky.com/t5/Archived-Discussions/Do-you-need-to-have-a-tel...:

If you have a Sky+HD box (except a Thomson) connected to the Internet with the latest software your box will be able to do the following over the Internet:
Make monthly callbacks to Sky
Make PPV purchases such as Sky Store and Box Office
Access limited interactive services.

Single box households are not required to have their box connected to a phone line
New multiscreen customers (on or after 18th December) are not required to have their box connected to a phone line only an Internet connection where possible.
Existing multiscreen customers (before 18th December) are currantly still required to have their box connected to a telepone line

In reply to a post by RobertoS:

Some people may have removed extensions when decorating, once they have cordless, but what then about Sky boxes?

As BatBoy has pointed out, Sky are moving towards boxes only requiring a Wi-Fi connection if there is any requirement for the box to be connected.

Of course, if the Sky hardware supports wired Ethernet, I would that as a better option than Wi-Fi if the necessary cabling exists or can easily be installed. Considering how congested 2.4GHz is in many areas, it is better to avoid moving multiple gigabytes of on-demand viewing over Wi-Fi if possible.


The dial-up modem is rapidly becoming obsolete. At one point, I wouldn't have considered travelling without a modem and cable in my laptop bag in case I needed a fax machine or had no other way to get online. My last laptop didn't have an internal modem and I chose not to buy a USB modem because I felt it was unlikely to get used; many hotel rooms don't have a wired phone these days. I haven't got a USB modem for my current laptop either; dial up Internet is too slow and expensive to be worthwhile these days, whilst I've not needed a fax machine for some time.

Devices needing connectivity (Internet of Things etc.) have all switched to Wi-Fi, Bluetooth or other wireless technologies. Smart meters typically use the mobile networks. Other than fax, which still has some fringe applications and is no longer supported by modern mobile phones, alarms are the only other mainstream non-voice application of a landline I can think of that remains relevant. Of course, the better wired alarms use Redcare, which doesn't use a normal plug and socket.