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Standard User deleted
(deleted) Thu 06-Oct-16 19:40:41
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Re: Your place on an FTTC enabled cab


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Not the LLU ISPs anyway, until the cablelink is installed.
Standard User solchain
(regular) Fri 07-Oct-16 09:14:49
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Re: Your place on an FTTC enabled cab


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Yup I had to wait an extra 10 days on my TalkTalk order for the link to be installed, the order was accepted and a date arranged, only to then be told that the installation was delayed by 10 days, this was a brand new cabinet and I ordered within 10 minutes of it showing on the BT ADSL Checker.
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(deleted) Fri 07-Oct-16 11:39:58
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Re: Your place on an FTTC enabled cab


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I suppose it's nit-picking slightly, but as we're discussing it, could Ofcom rule that this is unfair of Openreach and/or BT Wholesale? i.e. LLU providers have a 10-day wait. Thinking about it, it would depend if OR or whoever else notifies LLU providers in advance about every cabinet/exchange or not, wouldn't it? i.e. if LLU providers CAN have the link installed and make their services available at the same time as non-LLU providers, then fine. But if they can't, surely it's putting them at a disadvantage? Again, not the biggest issue in the world, but Ofcom certainly don't seem to take this sort of thing lightly.

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(staff) Fri 07-Oct-16 11:52:21
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Re: Your place on an FTTC enabled cab


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Pretty sure BT Wholesale gets told at the same time as other communication providers i.e. LLU equivalency

Cab 4 was a commercial cab on this exchange way back in 2012 and can see Sky users on the cabinet with VDSL2 http://tbb.st/1462092958437675455 so if TalkTalk has not got a handover (and believe EABRU is the handover too) at the exchange by now probably never going to.

But the reality is that do appear to have a handover since there are people on TalkTalk on that exchange with FTTC e.g. http://tbb.st/1456600459151118755

So maybe issue is nothing to do with handovers and all to do with cabinet 4 being at capacity and on the waiting list category.

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Standard User RobertoS
(elder) Fri 07-Oct-16 12:07:03
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Re: Your place on an FTTC enabled cab


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The GEA Cable Link is nothing to do with the cabinet. It's a cable at the fibre head-end exchange to link the Openreach fibre termination equipment to the provider's backhaul. All the active cabinets are available through every installed cable link.

The main providers in this respect being BT Wholesale, Sky, TalkTalk and Vodafone.

Most ISPs use BT Wholesale of course - they don't need their own cable link.

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(deleted) Fri 07-Oct-16 12:09:56
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Right, I was just wondering if LLU operators got notified of an exchange upgrade (or RFS date, etc.) so they can make their packages available at the same time as non-LLU operators. MrSaffron seems to have answered that, though.
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(deleted) Fri 07-Oct-16 12:17:01
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Cab 4 is full. A new cab is due probably in the new year
Standard User RobertoS
(elder) Fri 07-Oct-16 12:22:15
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As MrSaffron says really.

In the early days both Sky and TalkTalk seemed to be weeks later than BT Wholesale - maybe they wanted to see how popular FTTC was going to be as it is likely to need them also to upgrade their backhaul from each particular exchange. Backhaul capacity also being involved of course.

These days I don't recall Sky ever being behind BTW, and rarely TalkTalk either.

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