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Administrator MrSaffron
(staff) Sat 08-Oct-16 10:48:13
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Re: Stuck IP Profile?


[re: RobertoS] [link to this post]
 
Maybe TalkTalk is quietly running something that behaves a but like the IP Profile but is not the IP Profile and this setting on individual lines can occasionally be wrong

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Standard User RobertoS
(elder) Sat 08-Oct-16 13:55:05
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Re: Stuck IP Profile?


[re: MrSaffron] [link to this post]
 
Agreed, but how it can get the interleave depth to 5 is a mystery to me. Unless it is the default on one of the OR options.

Kindness isn't going to cure the world of all its awfulness but it's a good place to begin. Daisy Ridley.
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Connection - AAISP Home::1 80/20. Sync 57825/13835kbps @ 600m. - BQM
Standard User deleted
(deleted) Tue 11-Oct-16 15:42:56
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Re: Stuck IP Profile?


[re: MrSaffron] [link to this post]
 
Just got off the phone with TT support about this very issue.

I ordered a speed boost last night, this morning my router was synced at 26mbps down. Restarted the connection a couple of times, then rebooted the router. It now syncs at 79999 down, and 19999 up.

Speedtest shows 18mbps upload, but still only 38.5mbps down, exactly what I was already getting.

They went through their script, and decided that I need a new router. I doubt that's the issue, but we'll see.


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Standard User Seansmit17
(eat-sleep-adslguide) Wed 12-Oct-16 11:26:37
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Re: Stuck IP Profile?


[re: RobertoS] [link to this post]
 
So what is so odd about a depth of 5?

TalkTalk 80Mb
Current Line Stats
Attainable Rate: DL: 103884 UL: 28269
Connection Speed: DL: 79650 Kbps UL: 19999 Kbps
SNR: DL: 7.2 UL: 14.4=9
Attenuation: DL: 8.7 UL: 2.9
Standard User RobertoS
(elder) Wed 12-Oct-16 11:45:54
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Re: Stuck IP Profile?


[re: Seansmit17] [link to this post]
 
Only ever been seen on here on from two users as far as I know.

On BT Wholesale circuits, even though we are talking about the Openreach DLM, it is 1 - Fast path, 8 - minimal interleaving associated with G.INP, or in the high hundreds or even thousands for normal interleaving.

Kindness isn't going to cure the world of all its awfulness but it's a good place to begin. Daisy Ridley.
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Edited by RobertoS (Wed 12-Oct-16 11:47:05)

Standard User Seansmit17
(eat-sleep-adslguide) Mon 13-Feb-17 00:59:12
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Re: Stuck IP Profile?


[re: Seansmit17] [link to this post]
 
I was bored today and dug out the OR modem and connected that back up.

But I cant remember where the Interleaving stats are in this info:

Its also interesting to compare this info with what it was like when I first got VDSL2 (http://forums.thinkbroadband.com/fibre/f/4324380-fibre-installed-eci-modem.html?vc=1)

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xdslcmd info --pbParams
xdslcmd: ADSL driver and PHY statusStatus: Showtime
Retrain Reason: 0Last initialization procedure status:   0
Max:    Upstream rate = 32556 Kbps, Downstream rate = 88776 KbpsBearer: 0, Upstream rate = 20000 Kbps, Downstream rate = 79999 Kbps
Bearer: 1, Upstream rate = 0 Kbps, Downstream rate = 0 KbpsDiscovery Phase (Initial) Band Plan
US: (7,32) (871,1205) (1972,2782) DS: (33,859) (1216,1961) (2793,3970) 
Medley Phase (Final) Band PlanUS: (7,32) (871,1205) (1972,2782) 
DS: (33,859) (1216,1961) (2793,3970)           VDSL Port Details               Upstream                Downstream
Attainable Net Data Rate:           32556 kbps              88776 kbpsActual Aggregate Tx Power:             6.2 dBm               13.3 dBm
====================================================================================  VDSL Band Status      U0      U1      U2      U3      U4      D1      D2      D3
  Line Attenuation(dB): 3.6     18.1    26.5    N/A     N/A     9.8     21.7    33.1Signal Attenuation(dB): 3.6     17.2    25.4    N/A     N/A     10.9    21.5    33.1
        SNR Margin(dB): 15.4    13.9    14.1    N/A     N/A     8.3     8.3     8.3         TX Power(dBm): -8.6    -25.2   6.1     N/A     N/A     10.2    7.9     7.1


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xdslcmd info --stats
xdslcmd: ADSL driver and PHY statusStatus: Showtime
Retrain Reason: 0Last initialization procedure status:   0
Max:    Upstream rate = 32579 Kbps, Downstream rate = 88776 KbpsBearer: 0, Upstream rate = 20000 Kbps, Downstream rate = 79999 Kbps
Bearer: 1, Upstream rate = 0 Kbps, Downstream rate = 0 KbpsLink Power State:       L0
Mode:                   VDSL2 Annex BVDSL2 Profile:          Profile 17a
TPS-TC:                 PTM Mode(0x0)Trellis:                U:ON /D:ON
Line Status:            No DefectTraining Status:        Showtime
                Down            UpSNR (dB):        8.3             14.1
Attn(dB):        14.7            0.0Pwr(dBm):        13.3            6.2
                        VDSL2 framing                        Bearer 0
MSGc:           -6              -6B:              130             97
M:              1               1T:              0               0
R:              8               8S:              0.0518          0.1554
L:              21468           5457D:              16              8
I:              139             106N:              139             106
Q:              16              8V:              14              2
RxQueue:                57              39TxQueue:                19              13
G.INP Framing:          18              18G.INP lookback:         19              13
RRC bits:               24              24                        Bearer 1
MSGc:           186             58B:              0               0
M:              2               2T:              2               2
R:              16              16S:              5.3333          16.0000
L:              48              16D:              3               1
I:              32              32N:              32              32
Q:              0               0V:              0               0
RxQueue:                0               0TxQueue:                0               0
G.INP Framing:          0               0G.INP lookback:         0               0
RRC bits:               0               0                        Counters
                        Bearer 0OHF:            0               0
OHFErr:         0               0RS:             35461296                3277363
RSCorr:         0               0RSUnCorr:       0               0
                        Bearer 1OHF:            28762           28815
OHFErr:         0               0RS:             344405          115261
RSCorr:         0               0RSUnCorr:       0               0
                         Retransmit Counters
rtx_tx:         881507          80rtx_c:          50              384142
rtx_uc:         556             582757 
                        G.INP CountersLEFTRS:         2               649
minEFTR:        79999           19997errFreeBits:    69565880                3181926355
                         Bearer 0
HEC:            0               0OCD:            0               0
LCD:            0               0Total Cells:    71035965                0
Data Cells:     189697          0Drop Cells:     0
Bit Errors:     0               0 
                        Bearer 1HEC:            0               0
OCD:            0               0LCD:            0               0
Total Cells:    0               0Data Cells:     0               0
Drop Cells:     0Bit Errors:     0               0
 ES:             1               1
SES:            0               0UAS:            83              83
AS:             463 
                        Bearer 0INP:            46.00           47.00
INPRein:        0.00            0.00delay:          0               0
PER:            0.00            0.00OR:             0.01            0.01
AgR:            80614.82        20102.08 
                        Bearer 1INP:            4.00            4.00
INPRein:        4.00            4.00delay:          3               0
PER:            16.06           16.06OR:             95.62           31.87
AgR:            95.62   31.87 
Bitswap:        25/25           0/0 
Total time = 8 hours 22 secFEC:            454             246
CRC:            6               4ES:             1               1
SES:            0               0UAS:            83              83
LOS:            0               0LOF:            0               0
LOM:            0               0Latest 15 minutes time = 22 sec
FEC:            0               0CRC:            0               0
ES:             0               0SES:            0               0
UAS:            0               0LOS:            0               0
LOF:            0               0LOM:            0               0
Previous 15 minutes time = 15 min 0 secFEC:            0               0
CRC:            0               0ES:             0               0
SES:            0               0UAS:            26              26
LOS:            0               0LOF:            0               0
LOM:            0               0Latest 1 day time = 8 hours 22 sec
FEC:            454             246CRC:            6               4
ES:             1               1SES:            0               0
UAS:            83              83LOS:            0               0
LOF:            0               0LOM:            0               0
Previous 1 day time = 0 secFEC:            0               0
CRC:            0               0ES:             0               0
SES:            0               0UAS:            0               0
LOS:            0               0LOF:            0               0
LOM:            0               0Since Link time = 7 min 41 sec
FEC:            0               0CRC:            0               0
ES:             0               0SES:            0               0
UAS:            0               0LOS:            0               0
LOF:            0               0LOM:            0               0
#


TalkTalk 80Mb
Current Line Stats
Attainable Rate: DL: 103884 UL: 28269
Connection Speed: DL: 79650 Kbps UL: 19999 Kbps
SNR: DL: 7.2 UL: 14.4=9
Attenuation: DL: 8.7 UL: 2.9

Edited by Seansmit17 (Mon 13-Feb-17 01:00:04)

Standard User jaydub
(experienced) Mon 13-Feb-17 08:18:16
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Re: Stuck IP Profile?


[re: Seansmit17] [link to this post]
 
Try here for an explanation of what the parameters mean.

D is the interleaving depth, so it's 16 downstream and 8 upstream.
Standard User RobertoS
(elder) Mon 13-Feb-17 08:43:21
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Re: Stuck IP Profile?


[re: Seansmit17] [link to this post]
 
As jaydub says. But to my mind those are quite high figures for a line that has G.INP active. The Delay of 3ms on Bearer 1 looks odd to me as well, but I can't check my own at the moment.

Kindness isn't going to cure the world of all its awfulness but it's a good place to begin. Daisy Ridley.
My broadband basic info/help site - www.robertos.me.uk. Domains, site and mail hosting - Tsohost.
Connection - AAISP Home::1 80/20. Sync 54999/14466Kbps @ 600m. BQMs - IPv4 & IPv6
Standard User deleted
(deleted) Mon 13-Feb-17 12:31:14
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Re: Stuck IP Profile?


[re: RobertoS] [link to this post]
 
In reply to a post by RobertoS:
As jaydub says. But to my mind those are quite high figures for a line that has G.INP active. The Delay of 3ms on Bearer 1 looks odd to me as well, but I can't check my own at the moment.


They match the downstream on my line, where INP=48. Quite normal, I think, on Huawei cabinets, for the depth to be 8 or 16.

My bearer 1 has the same INP/delay settings, and the same framing parameters, downstream.

I don't have G.INP activated upstream, so can't compare.
Standard User RobertoS
(elder) Mon 13-Feb-17 13:00:10
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I agree re the depth 16 down, but 8 up is surely unusual? And a downstream delay of 3ms on Bearer 1 alongside zero on Bearer 0?

Kindness isn't going to cure the world of all its awfulness but it's a good place to begin. Daisy Ridley.
My broadband basic info/help site - www.robertos.me.uk. Domains, site and mail hosting - Tsohost.
Connection - AAISP Home::1 80/20. Sync 54999/14466Kbps @ 600m. BQMs - IPv4 & IPv6
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